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For information - anyone who has military service after 1987 is eligible to claim for hearing loss damage inflicted during training due to insuffcient hearing protection.
Please check if this is being conducted by a solicitor in your local area (in the UK). SSAFA, the Legion or word of mouth may provide details.
The main criteria is establishing that damage was caused in training by exposure to gunfire and / or helicopter operations. Exposure to bomb blasts and terrorist action are not considered contributary.
Following an initial consultation with a solicitor, proof that damage is of a credible level is established by a hearing test conducted by a private consultant. On the basis of his report the MoD may contest, but it is unlikely as in most cases they will settle.
People I know who went through this process paid £250 up front (to the hearing specialist) and it took about four-six months to complete. Sums vary from £1000 to £5000 depending on service and circumstances, i.e. if a lot of time was spent in training environments the sum may be higher than for average training exposure.
It's worth enquiring to see if you can take advantage of this.
BTW the hearing test results are confidential and are not divulged to anyone outside of the claim process, i.e. your employer.
Not sure if it is true but I was told that 'Boots DMS' may be the next claim issue.
Best of luck.
Just what the MOD needs at the moment a US style claim culture.
Even less money for the lads currently on the ground and even more blokes made redundant....for the sake of a grand I think I would rather let it go.
Put your false indignation back where it belongs.
They are offering this scheme, no-one is being forced to take it, especially if they are still compos mentis, have all the body parts they started life with and, most importantly, are employed. Like yourself, judging by your advertisement signature.
No-one is 'taking money from the lads on the ground'....what an arrogant slur against those who served and may now be suffering because the MoD didn't spend the money on kit then that they do now.
I'm glad that the soldiers these days have the level of kit they have - and doubtless they would not begrudge this scheme to the 'old and bold' who have done their bit and deserve help from any direction.
I do not qualify for the scheme as I left before the qualifying date, and put this thread on for the benefit of those who can.
If some of my tax money goes to pay for it, so much the better. It's either that, or a few hundred more .50 Browning rounds, they're both worthy causes.
'Task International Ltd' (aye rite) I really hope someone gives a shit about your infirmities when you get into your 60's. By then you might have learned a bit of humility.
Calm down geezer.
I fully agree with Task International.
Okay the MoD might be offering this scheme, but legally according to the health and safety act (as we all should know) they should have supplied appropriate protection, blah blah blah.
However from an outsiders view (not Forces) I see it heartless that people may take this, it results in less money for the troops etc. If i was in the forces though I probably would try and take it (everyone wants more money right).
I don't think it should be on offer or advertised in such a manner like this, if people are genuinely affected by hearing loss then they should look into it. By putting this up steve, and the MoD offering this, then everyone whose been through training since before i was born will be trying to get cash, thats a lot of people, a lot of people x £1000 = LOADS. LOADS thats won't be pumped into the service in ways it can be used. As I say, I think it should not be advertised but if genuine people who have lost considerable amount of hearing then feel free to get compensation. However I think any mug can tell you that guns are loud, loud noises make you deaf, you sign up to use guns, you sign away your hearing (or parts of it)
It's not false indignation, it's my opinion.
I would take offence at the "arrogant slur against our brave boys" bullshit but really can't be bothered...I know what I've done and what I continue to do for those who need help.
If people want to make claims against the military for hearing loss or sore feet or bad knees that's up to them...we all have our aches and pains, however I personally don't think it's worth pursuing for a grand or two, especially as that money has to come from somewhere...but that's my opinion...nothing to do with lacking humility.
And I stand by my statement about US style claims culture...
Military and Ministry of Defence (MOD) deafness claims following exposure to noise
Just one of many "No win no fee" solicitors making a tidy profit from claims against the MOD....brilliant...how does that fit into your pompous little rant?
I can see both points of view gents. I have never been a part of the 'compensation' culture.....that is until I did my back in. Whilst I didn't whinge or gripe about the circumstances, in fact quite the opposite, more a 'get yourself some wet wipes AJ and pad your jack 'n' danny' kind of guy, I did still stick in a claim.
I think there is a difference between this and 'milking it', taking the Army for all you can get type attitude. I got out not long after and the money was a great help towards more resettlement and finding my feet, but more importantly to me.....the money helped me get more treatment and try alternative therapies.
I have, just last week recieved a letter from the Veterans Agency stating that as a result of a recent review, my compensation has been re-assessed and I am to be paid an extra sum of money automatically. Am I going to refuse it? Nope....if I did would it be put to the budget for the guys on the front line?......Nope.
Just to REALLY throw the cat amongst the pigeons....I actually feel the Army is too soft with these claims sometimes. Mine was a rugby injury, okay, so my name was down to attend training, could I have got out of it? Hell yeah.....but I wanted to train. Was it the Army's fault that I decided to go from a sprint to a jog and out of nowhere crumble to the floor in sh*t state? No.
In the same vain...Stevie....you suggest a claim might be worth considering if you have spent any considerable time in a training environment!!! I was a training instructor for the majority of my career. WEAR EAR DEFENCE ON THE RANGES!!!!
I really don't know what world some of you guys live in; I can't understand this resentment toward a scheme, that was set up by the MoD as a means to avoid more costly litigation taken up by individuals that might have set a much more costly precedent, which serves to assist people who served their country and may have fallen on difficult times indirectly because of the condition that they suffer with.
I stand by my original post and by my comments. If by 'pompous' you mean being pleased that former soldiers can attain a small amount that helps them get through their life, then yes, that's what it must be. 'Pompous rant'? Re-read your own post if you want to see real pomposity.
I guess you lot must be the lucky ones who are all self-sufficient and set for your later years. Try looking beyond your own walled existence and see how many comrades are not lucky enough to be in the same position....but by your judgement, that's their hard luck, eh?
Admins, it was clearly a mistake on my part to imagine that there existed any sympathy toward, or the will to assist, any veterans who might be glad of a bit of help in their later years. Kindly lock off the thread to avoid any further vitriol being spewed. The smell of self-satisfied superiority offends me. Thanks.
the only vitriol on this thread has come from you because some people didn't share the same opinion...you instantly made it personal and started throwing your toys out of the pram. So you are right, probably best this thread is locked now before you have an aneurysm and try to make a claim against me.
Lads, I reckon from reading through the posts that what people are concerned with is not the mod squad paying out for gen up cases, but unfortunately we now live in a culture of claim for claims sake. All it takes to fool a hearing test is to press the pressel a little too late.... I had a mate who I was in service with who did the minimum time realised that he couldnt afford to live on civvie street, claimed for things like this and got some compensation. He disgusted me and I no longer consider him a mate. Spineless wanker, he qualed as cpo start of this year yet is registered "partially deaf" bollocks he's the type of letch that this will attract, the honest lads probably just head down and crack on. It's oxygen thieves like said person that will cause the issues. Said person also subject of post entitled 'walt alert' rant over. Apologies. Grips my sh*t. Sorry.