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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew.McEwan View Post
    Hi,

    Well im waiting on my SIA to come through (past the Course few months ago)...

    Unfortunately im not ex-forces so im going to have to grind up the ladder the hard way, but hoping my experience as a Door Supervisor for 6 years will help me, plus my dedication to perfecting anything i do.

    I would be happy to earn 100 - 150 for a few years till i get some good experience under my belt.

    But want to make a good career out of this and looking to become a big player in the corporate protection area... ( celebrities if i have to but prefer to work for business professionals)

    so if anyone has advice feel free to let me know

    Andrew

    personally i dont think 100 to 150 for cp low risk or not is enough especially if its a 12 hour shift. and the reason why the rate for cp work is going down is right there what andrew said ' i would do it to get experience' fcuk everyone else. i dont care about them. thats why companies are taking the p15s out of everyone and lowering the rates. the security sector is in ruins because of this attitude. everyone wants experience but it shouldnt be done to the detriment of everyone else. get the job by merit/network./friends etc.

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    Pay should be around 15 - 20 pounds per hour! If you think the companies are not charging 40 or 50 per hr per body on the ground your mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ste999s View Post
    personally i dont think 100 to 150 for cp low risk or not is enough especially if its a 12 hour shift. and the reason why the rate for cp work is going down is right there what andrew said ' i would do it to get experience' fcuk everyone else. i dont care about them. thats why companies are taking the p15s out of everyone and lowering the rates. the security sector is in ruins because of this attitude. everyone wants experience but it shouldnt be done to the detriment of everyone else. get the job by merit/network./friends etc.
    Ste999 I am sorry but new guys like myself are damned if we do ,damned if we don't.Surely after spending out x amount of thousands of pounds for quality cpo training and that still not being enough to secure work ,then surely you can not condem the guy for working for less than you are prepared to work for.
    Simple economics mean that companies will use these guys and they will do it because this industry is so focused on not what you know but who,he can only take advantage of the situation when its offered and that will be seldom if you believe the bias of cpo versus work.
    I don't blame you for thinking its devalued but don't forget you can get the work you put in for because you have the contacts and knowledge,and who knows one day so will he and so will I,and then maybe we can name our price but until then think on he won't be eating at your table.
    Sorry this is blunt but you guys won't be around forever and you gotta give us new guys a chance to learn.

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    i am pretty new to CP myself but i still wouldnt do a task for such low pay as i know that it devalues the job. i have done a few jobs myself and i know how hard it is to get work. but devalue it now and the rate will never go back up. its wrong and you know its wrong to take them jobs at such low pay when you know the rate at which the hirers are getting per person for that job. drag the time out and the hirers will eventually put the rates higher because no-one will do the work until a decent wage is commanded. if you had morals you know that it makes sense and that selfish attitudes is what is letting the security sector down

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    Quote Originally Posted by co19 View Post
    Diesel is exactly right, getting into consultancy and security amangement is the best step forward and the money is there.
    yes I agree the money is there...but its there for a reason.

    The average CP could not be a Security and risk assessment manager or consultant, as to do this effectively the practitioner needs not only significant experience, but also a sound understanding of a variety of subjects including

    management skills
    business/economic understanding
    criminology theories
    law
    political/current affairs understanding (international security)
    I.T/computing/networking/
    logistics

    To name just a few......

    Qualifications help such, as a degree in security management & risk assessment and furthermore being a member of an association like the ASIS really helps.

    So the money is there because it bloody hard to get there....most front line practitioners don't have the desire to go down that learning path which in reality is 4 years education (minimum) and some serious related work experience. in comparison the CP can be obtained by anyone who goes on a 21 day course, normally paid for by an elc scheme.

    That's why the market is flooded with surplus CPO's.....and its only going to get worse as the MOD cuts back in the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ste999s View Post
    i am pretty new to CP myself but i still wouldnt do a task for such low pay as i know that it devalues the job. i have done a few jobs myself and i know how hard it is to get work. but devalue it now and the rate will never go back up. its wrong and you know its wrong to take them jobs at such low pay when you know the rate at which the hirers are getting per person for that job. drag the time out and the hirers will eventually put the rates higher because no-one will do the work until a decent wage is commanded. if you had morals you know that it makes sense and that selfish attitudes is what is letting the security sector down
    Ste999 just looked at your profile and can totally understand where you are coming from very similar background to myself but I bet it was one of your mates who got you. Your first job so to a degree the uncertianty is taken away .Not everyone is that lucky so whether its 100 or 1000 per day the guy is gonna do it just for that chance to prove himself.

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