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Close Protection Training Thread, Close Quarters Combat for CPOs in Training forum; Hi All, I recently qualified as a HECPO with Longmoor, on completion of the course I was asked to return ...
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    Hi All,

    I recently qualified as a HECPO with Longmoor, on completion of the course I was asked to return to completely rewrite their CQC/physical intervention system and train their instructors in its delivery.

    The course was written with CPOs in mind, as far as I am aware one of the first of its kind. The system its self has a number of different influences from different martial arts, with the emphasis always being on protecting the principal as opposed to all out fighting. The course was very well recieved by all the Longmoor instructors, and they have now put the course in place and are delivering it to all their new delegates.

    Due to the sucess of the course, (described as, "Outstanding", by their head of training), there will be a stand alone course available to CPOs in June.

    If you have any questions or are interested in knowing more please ask.

    Sam
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    Hi Sam,

    I have a question concerning the program and changes.
    The past longmoor CQC program was obviously based on the instructors experiences in the British military and RMP CP.

    What is the new program based on?
    I looked at your background and you have been all over the place as well as being a shaolin monk which is very rare for a foreigner.

    So the new longmoor CQC program is based on kung fu?
    And you say longmoor will be running CQC only courses?

    That will be interesting to see what kind of system kung fu and british mil close combat put together makes...

    Kindest,

    Gideon

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    Hi Gideon,

    Answers below.

    What is the new program based on?


    It has influences from a number of martial arts, mainly Chinese and Japanese, but to look at would appear to be much more of a combative system. There is a strong emphasis on pressure point usage to make the techniques more effective.

    I looked at your background and you have been all over the place as well as being a shaolin monk which is very rare for a foreigner.

    Yes, I have been very luck and have managed to travel a great deal with my training. I am very fortunate as I still manage to travel a lot as I teach all over the place now, currently in the Caribbean!

    So the new longmoor CQC program is based on kung fu?

    Yes, in part, but to look at you would not know. There are no fancy kicks, or spinning anything. A lot of the techniques have been altered to suit the CPO working either as an individual or as part of a team. Essentially its not a fighting system per se, more a system for protecting the principal while engaging effectively and efficiently with an attacker.

    And you say longmoor will be running CQC only courses?

    I am not sure about that, perhaps later in ther year maybe. I wrote the entire course for the Longmoor instructors to pass on to their delegates. I am however returning to the UK in June for 3 weeks and I thought I would offer the course to individual CPOs who were interested.

    That will be interesting to see what kind of system kung fu and british mil close combat put together makes...

    The new Longmoor system has virtually none of the techniques used previously. I have been training army personnel for years now so I know the British army stuff quite well. The system the RMP CPU use is the same as the rest of the military so not specific to CP usage which does not take into account the fact there is a principal to look after. The new system I wrote for Longmoor has the principal as the main priority.

    Its not the first time that Chinese and Japanese influences have been used by the British military. William Fairbairn, (Fairbairn Sykes fighting knife), taught the British special foces and most of his training was in Chinese and Japanese martial arts systems.

    Cheers,

    Sam
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    Thanks for your response.
    Would love to get on your course if I am around.

    Yes its true that sykes and fairbairn's techniques had a massive japanese influence.
    KM is israeli and it has a lot of add on invented by the israelis to suit them and their style but when you look at KM techniques, a lot of them are japanese techniques and traditional fairbairn and sykes techniques.

    If I am not mistaken the British Special Forces training up the Palmach...
    So there is definitely a link.

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    Hi Gideon,

    I hope to see you there, the course is 14th - 18 June. It is advertised on one of the banners that pops up every now and again or go to;

    http://www.fightschool.co.uk/physica...on-course.aspx

    Cheers,

    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon View Post
    Thanks for your response.
    Would love to get on your course if I am around.

    Yes its true that sykes and fairbairn's techniques had a massive japanese influence.
    KM is israeli and it has a lot of add on invented by the israelis to suit them and their style but when you look at KM techniques, a lot of them are japanese techniques and traditional fairbairn and sykes techniques.

    If I am not mistaken the British Special Forces training up the Palmach...
    So there is definitely a link.
    I thought most of their learning was on the streets of Shanghi, is that more of a Chinese influence. Was it also not called Defendu

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    I was part of the course that were the first to receive Sam's CQC package and I found it very effective. I have an extensive martial arts background myself (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, boxing, MMA), and prior to deciding to move into CP, I was a professional MMA fighter so I generally have a good idea about what's going to work and what isn't. When I heard there was a CQC package as part of the course I braced myself to be biting my tongue, smiling and pretending it was great... Fact is it was excellent!

    Sam's stuff is brilliant and I'd recommend it.

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    Default Thankyou Sam

    As one of the first students after you changed Longmoors cqc package, I would like to thankyou for giving Damo the ability to hurt us even more,
    I will say I did enjoy the bruises and learnt a lot from what was taught,
    even to the point of actually having to use the spear on a gentleman who wanted to "crush my skull" suffise to say , he did not succeed.

    unfortunatly I wont be able to attend your course but it is something I will definately look into in the future when you are back in blighty.

    Many Thanks

    Dave

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    I've just completed the Longmoor Hecpo Course and was lucky enough to sample their new CQC package. Great for CPO's to use in the field but I'll never miss Damo's love of inflicting the pain and seeing other inflict the pain, ha ha.

    Serioulsy though, top package, nice one.

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    I'm on the course starting next monday, so i'v got it all to look forward to. Slybone, a quick question, I'v also done a fare bit of martial arts, do i need to forget about it and start from new or is there stuff that i can use.

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