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    Default Fare Evasion summons - Please HELP!!

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    Hello everyone,


    I'm new to the forum and hope to get some advice from you more experienced lot.

    So to make the story short, I stupidly used my wife's +18 Student Oyster card and got caught on the tube. Tried to settle before summons, but today received the summons letter in the post. I'm being prosecuted for fare evasion.

    Does anyone know how this might potentially affect my CCTV SIA licence renewal and my job? Otherwise I have a clean record and I heard these kind of offences are so-called non recordable. Is that true and if so, would they show on the CRB? I tried to check on the SIA Criminal record indicator, but I couldn't find this offence anywhere.

    I'm really scared for losing my job, because I'm up for promotion and my wife's pregnant.

    Any advice is much appreciated, thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Hello everyone,


    I'm new to the forum and hope to get some advice from you more experienced lot.

    So to make the story short, I stupidly used my wife's +18 Student Oyster card and got caught on the tube. Tried to settle before summons, but today received the summons letter in the post. I'm being prosecuted for fare evasion.

    Does anyone know how this might potentially affect my CCTV SIA licence renewal and my job? Otherwise I have a clean record and I heard these kind of offences are so-called non recordable. Is that true and if so, would they show on the CRB? I tried to check on the SIA Criminal record indicator, but I couldn't find this offence anywhere.

    I'm really scared for losing my job, because I'm up for promotion and my wife's pregnant.

    Any advice is much appreciated, thanks in advance!
    Dude,

    Come clean mate before we answer your question. Do you have another screen name? As a first post this is suspicious as hell.

    Mate, you should be charged with fare evasion. At the end of the day youu tried to get one over mate and got caught up to your elbow in the cookie jar. Credibility is everything mate. You say that you have a ~CCTV license. The CCTV license could land you in court if you witness something that is a crime. The question will always be asked "have you ever been convicted of a crime"?

    It's a question of integrity. Just my thoughts mate.

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    "Come clean mate before we answer your question. Do you have another screen name? As a first post this is suspicious as hell."

    Huh? Don't really follow, why is this a suspicious post? And no, I don't have another screen name, I found this site today when googling around desperately trying to find information on this!

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, but it's not really answering my questions. Of course credibility is everything. Trust me I know it was not one of my brightest moments and while it may sound cliche, it actually wasn't intentional and a genuine mistake. Nevertheless, it is a strict liability offence after all and none of this actually matters to them in the face of it especially at the moment when they're running this campaign on putting an end to fare evasion. Therefore I have to be realistic and be prepared in case they won't accept to settle out of court.

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    Could not have looked too hard. I just bunged a few relevant words into Google and came across a site called the Consumer Action Group which is stuffed full of people asking similar questions to yours.

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    That is true, but I could not find any answers to my questions on there:

    "Does anyone know how this might potentially affect my CCTV [wiki=1518]sia[/wiki] [wiki=3254]Licence renewal[/wiki] and my job? Otherwise I have a clean record and I heard these kind of offences are so-called non recordable. Is that true and if so, would they show on the CRB? I tried to check on the SIA Criminal record indicator, but I couldn't find this offence anywhere."

    I thought this forum is for people working in the security industry. Is there any reason why you seem to be offended by me asking about this subject?

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    Do you need it spelled out to you?

    1000 fine and a criminal conviction.

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    Criminal conviction for fare evasion? Are you guys certain?

    Also, lighten up on the guy.

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    By using your wifes Oyster card it becomes premeditated fraud,so a conviction will no doubt cause you to lose your license.
    You can start planning an appeal but I do not think it will be a success as the SIA are now under the microscope.
    Criminality, SIA Licensing Decisions and Court Appeals

    Don't be a Chav !! Its a hard lesson to learn but one you wont forget ! Pay your way next time.
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    From an employers point of view: when will he have another stupid moment that will cost my business money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNASHER View Post
    By using your wifes Oyster card it becomes premeditated fraud,so a conviction will no doubt cause you to lose your license.
    You can start planning an appeal but I do not think it will be a success as the SIA are now under the microscope.
    Criminality, SIA Licensing Decisions and Court Appeals

    Don't be a Chav !! Its a hard lesson to learn but one you wont forget ! Pay your way next time.
    NASH..
    you've made a mistake, you got caught.
    Get a good solicitor , I use Kaim Todner in Blackfrairs, London.
    You need to get the best you can, it's your lively hood after all.
    Just Play a straight wicket in future, you've let yourself down. And in turn us down in it's own way, hence the not such an open armed welcome.



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