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    The SIA have just announced that new Door Supervisors will have to gain the qualification of 'restraint techniques' in order to gain the licence. I don't think this is terribly new but they have announced that anyone renewing their Door Supervisor licence will have at attain this qualification. Ok, I can understand this reasoning but what about persons with a CP licence? We automatically hold the Door Supervisor qual'. Presumably, we will have to gain this 'restraint technique' qualification. Can anyone shed anymore light on this please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des View Post
    The SIA have just announced that new Door Supervisors will have to gain the qualification of 'restraint techniques' in order to gain the licence. I don't think this is terribly new but they have announced that anyone renewing their Door Supervisor licence will have at attain this qualification. Ok, I can understand this reasoning but what about persons with a CP licence? We automatically hold the Door Supervisor qual'. Presumably, we will have to gain this 'restraint technique' qualification. Can anyone shed anymore light on this please?

    about bloody time. any chance you can link a website you heard this off. Thanks

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    Its on the SIA home page, not much hunting to be done. I would still like to know how it will affect CP operators to work as door supervisors. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des View Post
    Its on the SIA home page, not much hunting to be done. I would still like to know how it will affect CP operators to work as door supervisors. cheers
    Ah see when you said restraint, I thought you meant actually decent PI stuff, with actual restrain techniques, not just the current PI. I think that even to re-new your SIA badge, you should have the module 4 PI. At the moment you have some door staff goose necking which the ones trained in PI are doing figure 4 etc.

    Really I picture that to be CP, you should be trained in a little bit more than basic level PI meant for door staff.

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    Cheers Pyrene, I have learned more. Thanks for input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrene View Post
    Ah see when you said restraint, I thought you meant actually decent PI stuff, with actual restrain techniques, not just the current PI. I think that even to re-new your SIA badge, you should have the module 4 PI. At the moment you have some door staff goose necking which the ones trained in PI are doing figure 4 etc.

    Really I picture that to be CP, you should be trained in a little bit more than basic level PI meant for door staff.
    From what I've heard, DS need more than the level of the current level of PI.

    The SIA said when the PI first came in that at some point DS would need to do it for renewal, so there's nothing new in this and if you read the statement on the SIA website you'll see they haven't decided when its coming in and that they'll give 6 months notice to allow people to get the training. It's typical of the SIA to make an anouncement like this without saying what effect it will have on CP licence holders who want to do DS work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlewoman View Post
    From what I've heard, DS need more than the level of the current level of PI.

    The SIA said when the PI first came in that at some point DS would need to do it for renewal, so there's nothing new in this and if you read the statement on the SIA website you'll see they haven't decided when its coming in and that they'll give 6 months notice to allow people to get the training. It's typical of the SIA to make an anouncement like this without saying what effect it will have on CP licence holders who want to do DS work.
    The SIA recommends that you re-new your basic PI every 3 years, i prefer every 6-12 months. The people who got their badge prior to the PI module never had to get PI before, but they will be making this mandatory, despite rumours of some people being forced to get PI training before they re-new their badge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrene View Post
    The SIA recommends that you re-new your basic PI every 3 years, i prefer every 6-12 months. The people who got their badge prior to the PI module never had to get PI before, but they will be making this mandatory, despite rumours of some people being forced to get PI training before they re-new their badge
    P is right about this i done my DS in 2005 renewed it this year without PI but in 3 years i will have to do the PI for the next renewal

    hope it helps ed

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