Applying for vacanices

[annie]

It seem that once again we need to remind some members about applying for vacancies posted by companies and members. It isn't rocket science, it's all about common sense.

We understand that it can be a frustrating venture sending CV's everyday and getting no replies, and the current market is grossly overmanned, with a lack of work.

* READ the entire vacancy ad

* ENSURE you have ALL the qualifications required and meet the criteria in full

* ONLY apply if you do meet every aspect of the criteria

* If you are succesful please do bother to show up (it's amazing how many we hear about who don't bother after they make the effort to apply)

* DO NOT spam those offering the vacancy with CV's that are not adequate

* ALWAYS be honest, do not lie to get a vacancy

* Think of others and not just yourself. everytime you simply send off a CV and do not meet the criteria you are wasting the time of those who bother to post a vacancy. Constantly doing this tends to loose the vacancy poster the will to live after reading 50 CV's that are not up to the task. You may be 21, have a CP license and believe you are ready to protect Madonna but a little realism goes a long way. Just because you have a FAW or an FPOS does NOT make you a medic ready to wizz off to the sandy places and jolly along on a convoy.

*REMEMBER posters do so because they wish to use a forum which has a great many qualified people on the hunt for work, don't spoil it for everyone else by applying for jobs you cannot do, or these posters will simply go elsewhere and then nobody gets the benefit of vacancies.

 

[Sergic08]

As they say, common sense is the less common of senses so it's not a bad thing to remind all this, Annie, specially after seeing how some CPW members posting vacancies can get really pissed off after receiving lots of CVs or PMs which have no relation at all with the professional profile they are looking for. It's hard for other members and job seekers to read lines like "I've drawn the conclusion that to employ specialist manpower you need the contacts - not a public forum that attracts muppets." That means this member is not going to post any other future vacancies in here and that's sad (though mind you, I do understand his reaction). Let's not slam the door in our own face guys, it’s as stupid and ‘suicidal’ as when groaning at someone because he posted a vacancy.

Of course when you apply for a job you always have to be positive and have the highest hopes for success, however it wouldn't be a bad idea to keep always a line about 'defeat' in mind too, if at the end of the day you aren't going to be successful in that application, better be it because you are overqualified (and that means having not only ALL the qualifications required but even more) than because you are a muppet (less qualifications or none at all, cooked up background, etc.). Professionalism probably starts by self-honesty.

 

[psko]

I am a door supervisor looking for door or security work
Can you help? usaidit8@live.co.uk

 

[Phecta]

annie i would like to add that when sending a CV, keep it short and to the point and make sure it is well presented and that includes not sending something that looks as though the applicant has either slept with it or used it as a table mat.

First presentations count and a CV will be disgaurded immediately if it is scruffy.

 

[sunray71]

......annie you didnt give an e-mail addy to bombard??? am qualified..........just not to the job avertised!!!

 

[annie]

I am a door supervisor looking for door or security work
Can you help? usaidit8@live.co.uk

Yes i can help you.............. POST IT WHERE ITS MEANT TO BE! THE MEMBERS LOOKING FOR WORK.

For the love of all things holy man, persec may be a pertinent issue too.

May i direct you to a slightly older sticky about posting in correct areas


I am laughing so hard right now..... do you know why i am laughing so hard? I'm laughing so hard because if i wasn't i would be beating my head off a wall somewhere in frustration at those who cannot read

 

[dodger]

annie i would like to add that when sending a CV, keep it short and to the point and make sure it is well presented and that includes not sending something that looks as though the applicant has either slept with it or used it as a table mat.

First presentations count and a CV will be disgaurded immediately if it is scruffy.

Damn I'll scrub those coffee stains of mine now, thanks for reminding me

 

[tapmaster]

Annie,

This should go without saying. Save to say we should not have to remind people of things like this. This is one of the reasons that will push employers away from posting vacancies on the forum. Why not create a page for those who applied for positions that they clearly did not have the qualifications for? Sort of like name and shame. I hope this does not put me in violations of the rules of the forum.

Best Regards

Tapmaster

 

[Carl Dowd]

I understand the frustrations guys I really do but perhaps I may suggest that we try the more tolerant approach of:

1. Education.

2. Employers accepting the fact that not everyone on here is an administrative genius.

3. Us all accepting that desperation leads to, or breeds, desperate measures or a desperate response..?

After all we are all human and guess what..? not infallible..!

 

[annie]

Tollerance Carl should stretch to a less than satisfactory Cv or letter of application, applying for posts you cannot possibly do i'm afraid should not gain such tollerance when it causes folks not to offer other vacancies which benefit others. Of course everyone is not a whizz at admin tasks that is absolutley acceptable in my opinion, i don't bear grudge against that at all. But i can't do brain surgery and i sure as shit wouldn't apply to be one, or apply to go work in the sand as a medic, or anything else. Knowing ones limits is a skill in itself. i do not mean to mock or upset people with the post, just ask for a little common sense to stop frightening off those who wish to post a vacancy

 

[Hein]

Spot on Annie,you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Carl Dowd]

Tollerance Carl should stretch to a less than satisfactory Cv or letter of application, applying for posts you cannot possibly do i'm afraid should not gain such tollerance when it causes folks not to offer other vacancies which benefit others. Of course everyone is not a whizz at admin tasks that is absolutley acceptable in my opinion, i don't bear grudge against that at all. But i can't do brain surgery and i sure as shit wouldn't apply to be one, or apply to go work in the sand as a medic, or anything else. Knowing ones limits is a skill in itself. i do not mean to mock or upset people with the post, just ask for a little common sense to stop frightening off those who wish to post a vacancy

Well annie you certainly haven't upset me with your post and as I have said before on here I embrace freedom of speech... actually my post wasn't directed at anyone in particular, quite frankly they normally aren't but I do question why it is on here that immediately somebody makes a mistake or perhaps may be a misguided individual the call or secream to 'Name and Shame' appears.

As far as I am concerned it is a private issue between the job provider and those who have applied. If any of you on here have had any experience at running a business then you will know that just sometimes there remains in business grey areas and one those grey areas is in fact receiving misguided CV's.

But you know? a well oiled and experienced HR system knows exactly how to sift, prioritise and deal with the chaff. It's not a major issue and in the old days prior to email it started with the colour of the envelope and the address, hand written or typed. Large companies employ the use of electronic key word detection and as a small firm we visually do the same and it takes minutes... no big deal..! CD

PS But just sometimes we exercise some tolerance...

 

[downunder-seeks00]

how u going carl......after work in afgan or iraq. looking for xsailor with some guts ? ever tryed boarding in high seas or fast roaping?have weapons quals done some work with your hereford cp blokes can u give us a go mate.

 

[ops1]

I totally agree with what has been said here so far. I would just like to add that, if you send your CV to someone offering work, and you dont fit the criteria laid down in the post, you make yourself look a numpty for sending in a underqualified CV in the first place. Your name will soon stick in peoples minds FOR THE WRONG REASONS.

 

[downunder-seeks00]

been up the river in iraq also mate

 

[brooky21]

There are more and more security firms offering close protection courses now.I feel one of the problems Is,Instructors on thease courses Inflate the truth about work available when the course starts.I know when I finshed my CP course I was applying worldwide for positions with little luck.Most CPO,s know as I do, databases run In funny numbers,up to 6000 on file on some.CP work for me Is my career and I love the Job,however,you do need contacts and a little ladyluck on your side.

 

[conf32eire]

hello lads im not a cpo at the moment but im starting my course in the next few weeks followed by the heat course in finland was just wondering what would be the best route to go to work in the hostile enviroments i know my lack of experience will be a serious drawback but i just want to know if it will even be possible because ive no military backround any answers would be appreciated thanks

 

[R2700m]

To be blunt with no prior military (or police) experience you wont get CP/PSD contract in Iraq and probably not Afganistan if thats were youre intending to go...

 

[dodger]

hello lads im not a cpo at the moment but im starting my course in the next few weeks followed by the heat course in finland was just wondering what would be the best route to go to work in the hostile enviroments i know my lack of experience will be a serious drawback but i just want to know if it will even be possible because ive no military backround any answers would be appreciated thanks

The best route for you with no experiance and no military background would be to use your money on other courses the chance of you getting a job in a HE are zero. However there is alweays a chance of work in europe etc so instead of the HEAT course try a first aid or driving course.

 

[dodger]

Oh and nice intro!!!!