Brendan Curran and Simon Cowell?

I am not saying he is the same as other people. I am saying what he did was a long time ago. The army used to recruit quite a few people who had been very naughty boys in their youth and turn them around. People can and do change. Also, as Vis alluded to the British trained various groups around the world, governments and rebels (terrorists, insurgents or whatever label you feel like putting on any particular group) that had appalling records when it came to human rights.

You are being very presumptuous saying that I know nothing about the situation there, that is not the case.

Nearly every country has at sometime been down this road.
Curran is a terrorist as he will always have a loyalty to the cause and if he was asked to take up arms again and fight for that cause he will do, there is no doubt about that.
In regards to the licensing of his business.... politics at work.
But what I am curious about is your thoughts into believing that Curren should not be blamed or held responsible for his past due to his circumstances, every one has a choice.
I find your argument to be lame, maybe a little more in depth research or an actual understanding of what went on and is still going on may benefit, specifically look at the psychological aspect. I can supply a reading list if you want and I also have some very interesting publications, you are more than welcome to them.
I am by far no expert, but I have spent a number of years working within this specific field.






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I would be interested to know who hired him and his company. So much for due diligence , a quick look at his FB profile would tell me everything I needed to know , proudly displaying photos of himself carrying an IRA volunteers coffin alongside that other terrorist McGuinness would be enough to get him binned.
I'm the first person who would give someone a second chance, only if I think they have changed though. I agree with Larpy in thinking he is still loyal to the cause so no second chance from me.
 
Why is the information supplied by the papers is being treated as correct?

Is Brendan Curran, Simon Cowell's cpo? No,
If he were he wouldn't be in other images with the other judges, he'd be with Simon!
He'd also be at other venues with Simon.

Was he working at the venue? Yes, clearly.
Was he/his company employed by the venue? Only Brendan Curran will know the answer to that!

Did someone think there was a risk of disorder, that would be prevented by putting such a man in to provide security?
I would hazzard a quess that exactly what happened.

Using a name or a face isn't a new concept.. venues have done it for many years!
The fact he is a "former terrorist" has caused great debate for a few days anyway, but how many "former terrorist" are there in Northern Ireland, in fact how many "former terrorist" are there in Belfast alone?

Was it a poor choice?
Well from a PR point of view YES a massive mistake!
From the venue security point of view, NO. I haven't read or heard of any reports of disorder, has anyone else?

If the choice had of been mine to make; he would'nt of been on the job. As it wasn't my choice I'll have try and understand the judgement made.

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Just to answer a few points made.
I never said that Curran shouldn't be held responsible for his actions. He was held responsible in 1973, 40 years ago, he did a long time in prison. I'm also not saying that his past should be forgotten just that you have to put it into perspective, it was 40 years ago. If we constantly hold someone's past against them then how is that person going to move on and change. People do change, criminals turn their back on crime, racists can become anti-racists, homophobes can become pro-gay rights.
As for his current or more recent views, that would take more of an in depth look at what exactly his views are. Is he one of those in Sinn Fein that pushed for the ceasefire and agreeing to the Good Friday agreement or one of those who was dragged along reluctantly, or just went with whatever the party said. Is he currently working to resolve differences and build bridges between the two communities or is he just interested in what he can get out of politics or constantly complaining that the Catholics are hard done by and not getting a fair deal from the British.

Funerals were mentioned. What isn't understood by most people in Britain is that for Irish Catholics (including the atheist ones) is that funerals are for the family, not the dead. When I was working at a factory in Ireland the company sent a senior manager to a funeral of the father of an employee. This was a company that didn't give a toss about its employees and dead bloke had no connections with the company at all but it was seen as compulsory that the company sent a representative. There is also a feeling amongst the more religious that whatever a person has done in life, they are about to be judged by God and get what is coming to them, so past sins are set aside for the funeral.

As for those who think I just need educating about the situation there. I must admit, I'm a bit out of touch since I left, I have to rely on the media and friends over there to get an idea of what is going on. However, I did spend over 6 years living there, 4 of it in the murder triangle. I had friends and work colleagues on both sides of the divide from all sorts of backgrounds with all sorts of views. My first experiences of driving after passing my test were in the height of the rioting about the Garvaghy Road issue, trying to get to and from work around barricades and road blocks and never knowing whether I would get through unscathed. There were bad things done on all sides at all levels with every side justifying their actions by citing some bad done by the other side. Some of those actions are in the public domain, some are not, some are just in my head, things I witnessed, and that's where they are staying.
 
Was it a poor choice?
Well from a PR point of view YES a massive mistake!
From the venue security point of view, NO. I haven't read or heard of any reports of disorder, has anyone else

Reports of disorder? Isn't that the whole point of hiring an IRA Terrorist? Who, in their right mind, is going to 'kick off' when confronted with a PIRA 'legend'???

The whole World has gone feckin mad.
 
I think you may be forgetting that you still have to pay the IRA to film in some parts of belfast, if you want to finish the filming with no problems that is.

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Brendan Curran was not Simon Cowell's cpo, in fact he never had an assigned CPO but did have security assigned at filmings and that would be part of the venue security detail as did all the judges and Pro-Tec were not the security supplier for the UK anyway. I worked with X Factor for a few years and the people on security for that show were a good bunch of people as to was Simon Cowell. Don't believe all that you read :)
 
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