FPOS -v- MIRA

I have been a UK HPC Paramedic for 18 years, working all over the world and now back in the pit. I enjoyed reading the initial post.
The unfortunate aspect with all of this is that to get work and maintain it with the larger companies operators are having to complete a MIRA course. FPOS-I is all that is needed. After this a good medical trainer in country to conduct continuation training to maintain these skills.
 
I've just read every post and as said before thanks to all who have offered some very sound advice.

This is what this forum should be about, excellent post.
 
Derbyshire Stronge do FPOS-I for £55o, Couldn't beat it. No faffing about either they teach you what you need to know and nothing more.
 
Capesierra and Co.

I do agree with the big comment.... BUT and there’s always a but:

MIRA and others may, and I do say MAY have a place....

Speaking for MIRA, (Medicine In Remote Areas)... That’s REMOTE AREAS, it’s not called Medicine in Bagdad 40 mins from some form of definitive care.

The course was initially intended for the likes of TV Camera crews, overland and mountaineering expedition types on their ‘Jo todd’ 100's of miles from anywhere.
In locations like this then yes there is a lot to gain from knowing a few "Extended skills" that might be the difference between life and death.

Personally I don't think it should come with any certification and defiantly not as a qualification, and ULTIMATLY never be used to gain any employment!!

Peace

PF
 
A very interested topic to be discussed and as some have mentioned, there have been some good comments. I myself have conducted a MIRA course, but there are the likes of other courses such as the STORM course which is exactly the same as the MIRA, just with a different name as there is only one company that can conduct the MIRA course. Let us not forget that these courses are endorsed by the RCS Edinburgh and are not fully recognised qualifications such as a BTEC or City and Guilds. I am by no means saying that either of these courses are bad, but lets not forget that any fully qualified and experienced medic/company can run such a course and call it something else. As long as the student is happy that the company has the relevant experience and expertise, then does the name of the course actually matter if all of the relevant subjects are covered.

My personal opinion is that all doorman should do the standard FAW, however all front line operators should do the FPOS (I) as a standard and not the FAW. If you then are working in hostile environments, then I believe all consultants should do MIRA/Storm course or equivalent. But as mentioned, practice makes perfect, so keeping current is keen. it is all dependant on the area of this industry that you operate in, if you work in the sand pit, FPOS(i) would suffice, however if you work with the media then you need a remote medical course as you do not have that in country support and need to be on your toes with basic illnesses, diseases and then up to trauma level and evacuation techniques.

A issue i have seen first hand is that some consultants in today's market, even though they make decent money are not willing to invest in themselves.
 
I know this is an pretty old post, but just to add on this Ive completed a FREC 3 course and basically where I work they stipulate you got to have MIRA and well I am refusing to do it when I don't need to due to all the points above. The job title we have is either Tier 1 or Tier 2 Medic, I'm a Tier 1 but not a medic just a first responder, I am no medical professional with paramedic level skills. I just don't understand this crap about needing to be MIRA trained when looking at both FREC 3 and MIRA course content there is very little difference. And thats one of the reasons why I took the FREC 3 course in the first place, my MIRA ran out and well I actually thought that for £1000 the MIRA i did was an utter waste of money and quite frankly S**T.

And why should somebody do MIRA just because they work in HE, as mentioned in this very very old post, we are treading a very very thin line and could potentially kill a client etc due inefficient experience and inefficient skill levels and by only completing a 5 day course which is teaching advanced medical skills, and an individual attempting these advanced skills is held responsible for the worst case scenario.

As a Tier 1 I don't believe that we need anything more than FREC 3 Or FPOSI, Tier 2's are within an hour window and they have the advanced skills required should the need arise.
 
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