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joshualcar

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Hi, I am a RMC (Royal Marine Commando), have been for about 6years. I'm trained from small arms to heavy weapons, First Aid, CQB, many other things. I not saying I have done it all or anything like that, just to spend around £3000, is a lot of money when I dont know how hard it is to get a job in the CP world/maritime. I am wanting to do a course, but should I have to pay for some thing that I have already done though the corp, also I am planning on moving and living in the USA, do they have better courses and companies to work for; if so could you point me in the right direction, coz at the mo, lost with what course and company is the one to do. Thank you
 
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but should I have to pay for some thing that I have already done though the corp,
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What cp experience did you get in the Corp Josh? Were you Police Troop?
CP is a very specific role and very different to that of the combat soldier.. Yes there are transferrable skills, but also entirely new ones you need to learn...
 
As you have all the Military quals .I would reccomend RL OATMAN and assoiates based in Baltimore .very good introduction to the coorporate world .check out his web site .
 
Josh, if you would consider bail enforcement, I could put you in touch with Frank Abramovitz in PA. The courses are I believe around $500 to gain the certification, then its a case of tracking down the runners that have jumped bail and turning them over to law enforcement.
 
hello hippy, I have not done CP in the corp, CQB, counter terrorism and other marine adquals. Thats why im asking what should I do. I mean there are course that have firearms on them which cost more i.e extra £800, and medic courses, which im also medic trained, but do I need to do that, when firearm quals are not used in the UK. Plus im trained from small arms up to .50 cal etc. :)
 
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DSJB, I dont know much about but, yes I would look into it, im open for suggestions. I was looking many and maritime security, or high risk, in afgan or iraq to be honest, but yes if you sent me the details i would get in touch with them asap, as Ill be over there next month :)
 
HARLEY, thanks for that il check it out asap. why have you reccomended RL OATMAN have you gone there course or know some one who has. Thanks again... If I had a choose I would work for a British company but live in the USA. That was what my plan was, thats why im looking at courses and jobs on both sides trying to work out my best options, thanks again
 
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Josh, fugitive recovery agents (modern day bounty hunters) when a person is released on bail for an offence from a court, they have to leave a sum of money with the court to ensure their return to stand trial. The amounts vary depending on offence and Judge. For example if bail is set at $250,000 the person seldom has that sort of money, so they go to a bail bondsman who puts up the money under contract with the accused. The accused who legitimately returns to court then owes the bail bondsman a percentage of the bail fee already agreed under the contract. However quite oftend the fugitive flees and the bail bondsman is facing having to pay the full bail, so he hires fugitive recovery agents(bounty hunters) who travel the states or sometimes anywhere to detain the person and hand them over to law enforcement.
Its all legal and certified, they carry a variety of weapons, arrest and search under warrant. All good stuff, like being a cop but without the bullshit. Find the runner, kick the door in, no niceties required when he has fled bail, handcuff and drag his ass down to the local cop shop. Anyone who wants Franks e mail address please pm me, please no time wasters as he is a busy man, he runs one course a month the rest of the time he is out bounty hunting.
 
And this is for Amercian citizens I guess so we dont end up with crusaders from Europe arresting guys in USA
It would be interesting though as a viking to kick in doors in the country we discovered before Columbus lol*

hawk
 
Josh, I would suggest if you are considering working in the US that you speak to Jerry on this forum. He's a nice guy for a yank...
I'm joking...
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He will point you in the right direction regarding training and legislation over there..
Personnaly I dont see the point in someone such as yourself doing firearms training, unless your limited on pistol experience. However, most of the better courses contain firearms training I think. Speak to Morrrigan. He will advise on that front...
 
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hello hippy, I have not done CP in the corp, CQB, counter terrorism and other marine adquals. Thats why im asking what should I do. I mean there are course that have firearms on them which cost more i.e extra £800, and medic courses, which im also medic trained, but do I need to do that, when firearm quals are not used in the UK. Plus im trained from small arms up to .50 cal etc. :)
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My 5p for what its worth.
Been medic trained is a sort of a catch all statement, i was also medic trained but definatly to a diffrent standard than you. Working in the CP game is totally diffrent to been in the corp.
There are transferable skills granted but if your contacted in the arse end of nowhere the MERTS isnt going to come to you. Medical skills need to be advanced and above, chucking an IV in isnt really going to be enough.
I understand your reluctance to spend your money on things you have covered before but then i still refresh my FAAW cert and thats the most basic one i have.
KTM
 
The chances of your .50 qualification being any use to you are pretty slim I would imagine!! As many others have said, your military skills are a good platform to build on, especially for HE stuff but you need to get job specific training. I also notice that you did 6 years in the Corps, there are those who would argue that you are not the most experienced ex booty who will be competing for work. A lot of companies specify at least 7 years service before they will consider you. Something to ponder?
 
DSJB
Its much possible he did?
But we all learn and make progress from the history right..and I do know from my work in Saudi Arabia, everything with Knigths/templar or the Cross is totaly forbidden since the days of the crusaders.
Especially the red cross that we today accpeted as (First /Aid/Emergency /Medical Assistance) is not looked nice on..so several product makers use the green cross and its much more acceptable..
In the eyes of the muslims the time from the holywars are still hurting.

hawk
 
Look at training with these companies:

IPSSC (The Institute of Protection Specialists & Security Contractors) - yes I know it is my company but our courses are top notch.
Executive Protection Institute (Executive Protection Institute: Training Personal Protection Specialists for 23 Years.) - I have trained with these in the past and they are a very well respected school - (I believe J MacCaulley is one of their instructors too).
ESI - often quoted as the best but very expensive ($3000 won't get you very far with these guys).

Don't waste your money on Bail Enforcement courses... the job is overrated and is so overrun with misfits and jokers that the only money to be made these days is in teaching others how to do the job (I am a certified Bail Enforcement Agent and don't bother with the work because the jokers have created situations that have resulted in the industry being almost regulated out of existence).
I live here in the USA so if you have any other questions then feel free to PM me.

Regards,

Overwatch
 
Josh, don't let these guys fool you. The trappings of being a Bounty Hunter are irresistible. Look at the beauty that Dog found! And that was before he got himself locked up in Mexico.

Seriously though, contact the schools that have been recommended. Your best bet would be to make sure they are operational as well as instructional. The better companies often do work internationally and having a graduate who is able to work overseas as well as locally is a big plus. In fact, the company I work with will only give assignments to their graduates, or those they have previously worked with.

Which brings up another point for you to consider. You will need to get licensed to work in the UK, obviously, but you will also need to be licensed in the states where you think you'll be operating inthe US.

Best of luck to you!

Jerry
 
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