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In all honesty how many guys here are not struggling with money and bills?
There are times when we have much work and are happy we do get paid and other times when we are chasing every little income their is.
I dont think this is a good idea to have guys personal life put out here and I refuse to take part of that. In defence to Duncan I know he is a nice bloke and have great experience. I would focus on the director general and not the guys that wish to stay abord and ride the storm out since we dont know in 1 year time whats happening with the organisation. I know I left in 2007 and never will come back due to alot of issues and how members where handled by the DG.
On a more personal note from me here to Duncan (on the open forum) Im sorry people chase you here its not what I had in mind when I said hello and welcome to the forum. I think you need to seperate yourself from DG or you will go down with the sinking ship.
Dont let youre life skills and developments be destroyed over this, but as long as you are linked to HQ and the organisation it will be a nightmare
I do wish you the best of luck

Hawk
 
Have just seen over on the ARRSE site that Duncan White has been exposed as a Bankrupt !!!

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To be fair to Duncan, that was a while ago and sh1t happens. However, it does seem that bankruptcy is one of the qualities shared by Jimbo.
As Hawk has also said, the association with the DG is not a healthy one. Duncan has a good enough 'stand alone' reputation to be able to break away completely and start out on his own, in his own right.
Without going off topic too much, during Jimmy's period of bankruptcy it would appear that he was not adverse to using different IDs, 'Gerrard Peters' being one of them (1987/88) ;) :rolleyes:
 
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Imo Duncan is just as bad as Jim Shortt, "Who is more the fool? the fool?, or the fool who follows him?" How can Duncan be associated with a guy that wears fake medals from WW2, fake Papal Knighthoods, Para Reg/SAS ? Courses that are not worth the paper the certs are printed on. You can go on and on and on about Jim Shortt and yet Duncan still hangs on to him and expects to remain credible.

I wonder what Excuses Jim Shortt has told Duncan about all this.
 
IBA training is good or bad ?
Forget general director C.V. please .
IBA still active .
Thanks in advance .

I think various folk have stated that in general where Shortt is not involved, the training is OK, but if at the end of it you are to receive a diploma signed by a fraud then the courses a worthless, any diploma hanging up on any National directors office wall is just as worthless. It has been proven time and time again that 90% of the MDs credentials are false. Jim may be quite a good UNQUALIFIED instructor and he may have turned out some good instructors, but then, even they on a technicality are not qualified by the fact that they are being endorsed by an unqualified individual. Much of Jim's teaching us does not fall within the remit of the SIA either, so when that particular outfit has a shake up many folk will find themselves unlicensed by virtue of the fact that many of their IBA. qualifications are void. Micky Mouse might accept his own currency but it wouldn't be accepted by the bank of England, savvy?.

BTW Team13-Security, I note that you have invested somewhat in Shortt, with hindsight, is it wise to continue with promoting him and OTT? Might it be worth cutting the crap from your site where it refers to them and stick to the IBA business alone, .. if you must?
 
You can go on and on and on about Jim Shortt and yet Duncan still hangs on to him and expects to remain credible.
I wonder what Excuses Jim Shortt has told Duncan about all this.
More over, What has Shortt got on Duncan that finds him in the line of fire?
For example; Look what happened with the London school of Surveillance and Lawson Associates. Both lost their official accreditations because Shortt was in the food chain.:rolleyes:
 
Hi,

Have anybody seen the HCT logo on this video??????? Is this Hostile Control Tactictics from the USA Kevin James??? Can anyone clear this one up for me please??


Torcuss

If your referring to the logo in top left corner of vid, on my screen its looks like HRT1 which maybe the news channel in Croatia.
 
Guys, no one has exposed me, you only got to ask, badly injured in 1999 Bankrupt in 2000 its quite difficult working with one hand, you should try it some time.

As for answering the questions on the Knighthood, I,m not sure if thats appropriate or not so I will pass.

How ever if any one wants to pay for my membership of the the Order of St Gregory I will happily join, if they say no then I guess we will all be winners.

As I have said before and will keep on saying I am not blanket defending the IBA, just the bits that I have been involved with.

I have given away at least 15 full BTEC courses in my time, predominantly to ex-mil, at least 50 Level 2 Defensive Driving courses, some of the guys that have worked for me in the Uk have been on over £300 quid a day, for some over £35,000 a year every one who works for me do very nicely thank you, I am proud of the way I have helped people over the years and continue to do so, we still do at least 4 or 5 CP tasks a week in the UK, if people want to take the piss and not be part of that thats there loss.
Why aren't these guys jumping to my defense you might say? because they have all committed them selves to confidentiality agreements.

If you do one of my courses and your good you get work.
 
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Guys, no one has exposed me, you only got to ask, badly injured in 1999 Bankrupt in 2000 its quite difficult working with one hand, you should try it some time.

As for answering the questions on the Knighthood, I,m not sure if thats appropriate or not so I will pass.

How ever if any one wants to pay for my membership of the the Order of St Gregory I will happily join, if they say no then I guess we will all be winners.

As I have said before and will keep on saying I am not blanket defending the IBA, just the bits that I have been involved with.

I have given away at least 15 full BTEC courses in my time, predominantly to ex-mil, at least 50 Level 2 Defensive Driving courses, some of the guys that have worked for me in the Uk have been on over £300 quid a day, for some over £35,000 a year every one who works for me do very nicely thank you, I am proud of the way I have helped people over the years and continue to do so, we still do at least 4 or 5 CP tasks a week in the UK, if people want to take the piss and not be part of that thats there loss.
Why aren't these guys jumping to my defense you might say? because they have all committed them selves to confidentiality agreements.

If you do one of my courses and your good you get work.

Duncan,

I'm cutting you some slack, so would you like the chance to edit your reply/post.? I don't want to outright accuse you of classic Jim Shortt M.O :mad:
 
So duncan when your were training people with the IBA im sure you were aware of all the false claims on the IBA website like SIA approved, Microsoft, FBI. you must have known these were false and yet contuined to take your bite of the cherry.
 
In response to reorg, yes very aware of those claims, all I am going to say on the matter of operational tasks is, they are all logged in CPD files and company profiles, they would have been seen and logged by the appropriate authority's, so on those claims I have no concerns.

Not sure what you mean by SIA approved? Do you mean approved as in the contractor scheme? You need to be a bit clearer on the question please.
To be honest I dont like the implication by the bite of the cheery comment and if you have a problem with my involvements in any way, I for one would always say to anybody that is not happy, dont bitch about it on a website take it to the SIA or Crime stoppers or the awarding body's I certainly do and have every time.

Regards
Duncan.
 
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Duncan you still have not answered the question about your award from the Cardinal at the Vatican ? You, Jimmy Shortt and the IBA are the laughing stock of the CP/BG world. I am sorry about your gammy hand. Have you thought about a transplant ? Jeremy Beadle died with one good hand. You could always dig him up and take the hand into A&E in Swindon and ask for it to be replaced. Just an 'Armless joke mate.
 
AS I said I don't think its appropriate to say on an open forum, I repeat I am happy for the experts to have a look at it and make a call, no problems there at all. As to the whole CP/BG industry thinking I'm a joke, I would of course rather they backed that reasoning up with some evidence, the thing is I don't have contracts with the whole CP/BG industry just my clients.

Next week I will be using about 12 CP guys to carry out tasks for me, maybe they don't feel the same way either.

You've had a dig at me I;v had one back why don't we leave the personal stuff out of it.

Lets say you are concerned for the integrity of the industry as am I, have you thought about if the IBA UK was so bad why haven't any thing been done about it.
We can all say the SIA this the SIA that, the awarding body's this the awarding body's that.

Do you honestly believe that with all the media coverage of the IBA in the press that the authorises wouldn't go for such an easy goal, of course they would all the work has been done for them.

I can assurer you if there was any wrong doing I would be shouting as loud as every one else.

I can not talk for every part of the IBA, but I can talk about the IBAUK sector, think logicically.

Regards

Duncan.
 
False claims, creation & distribution of False CV's to gain employment contracts, a touch of deception, and generally misleading all and sundry seems to be quite a normal trading standard of the International Bodyguard Association all stemming from Jim Shortt and filtering down the pecking order.

Is this what Jim Shortt teaches his IBA national directors, who were as IBA students already filled with Jim Shortt's false claims and bull, they then go off carrying on spouting the same false guff on Jimbo's behalf. Therefore by doing so making a false claim seem more convincing and credible as a truth to the unsuspecting person or group of persons. Get the Jim Shortt modus operandi yet, all for financial gain.

As a little research exercise, I picked out a few random countries from Jimbo's IBAHQ website, where IBA claims to have a office I selected Spain, Ireland, England, Italy, Malta, Slovenia and Germany, took a look at their websites and followed links (revealed a lot more of interest via the website archive service), spotted false claims and multiple thefts of copyright logo's, and that's just at first glance. For all anyone knows I may have been doing this for a governmental department, corporation or family who may have been interested in doing business and providing lucrative contracts with the IBA and IBA members/trained persons.

After looking at those websites anyone with half a gram of intelligence would automatically suspect some funny/dodgy business going on there, the only continuity within the IBA group was claims to a dead person(Lucien Ott) and a person exposed as a complete fraud(Jim Shortt) who are themselves both associated with wanted suspects and organised crime in Belgium.

A little further background research into a few "IBA National Directors" reveals there is a international active cell premeditated and organised in deception operating under the direction of Jim Shortt. Take IBA Spain as just one example, the directors consist of a walter mitty Major and his wife (Head of IBA Women Branch) also run a private clinic for PTSD injured military personnel, the treatment includes convincing the injured person that to make a successful recovery they should undertake a IBA course and be reprogrammed as bodyguards to then take a job in a hostile war zone. WTF!

As for all the sia claims, well so what, it's a private company in England that won a contract under a failed government, the sia has not been successful with it's qualification and licensing program, just look up on the internet all the documented failures against them. And not to forget the sia only covers UK where private CP personnel don't even carryout high risk duties in UK (unless it's for criminals). A sia licence only shows the person has completed/passed the minimum requirement of a training course and does not have any serious criminal convictions to get a licence. It does not show the licence holder is actually any good at providing close protection.

I personally know a few guy's who don't have sia licenses, a couple of them do have serious criminal convictions, yet they are all are excellent bodyguards and in fulltime CP employment with each them getting paid in excess of £100k tax free with perks per year. Compare that to Duncan's post where he claims to employ sia CP licence holders and only pays them £35k per year, I think he's paying far below a decent rate for decent staff or does not value their real worth, jeez the guy in my local Mercedez dealer earns £35k per year plus perks and he's only a service manager.

For companies like the IBA the sia guff is a selling point to get backsides on seats for training courses. They use to attract people from former eastern block countries who are looking to meet border and immigration regulations for their own agenda, it's a farce which in turn seriously undermines the concept of security. Although it doesn't seem to matter because it's all about turning a blind eye and take the money.

Duncan has used or continues to use the title of "sir Duncan White" in the UK on electronic IBA documentation, yet the title was never bestowed on him by the Queen of England or her Prime Minister. Duncan would have everyone believe (at time of writing this) it was given to him by a Cardinal of the Catholic Church, but fails to state (who,when, why and where) the Cardinal was. It is not a secret or inappropriate to give those details if genuine.


Duncan representing IBA UK invites questions to be put to him, and states he believes in "Transparency, Openness and honesty", he then fannies about not actually answering, not being open, not being honest, not being transparent. It displays all the hallmarks of typical Jim Shortt M.O.

A very reliable document "The London Gazette" shows Duncan White was declared a bankrupt by court order in 1997 after a animal manicure business he owned failed, but Duncan claims it was 2000 after he badly injured his hand in 1999. Many person's have continued working with badly injured limbs including loss of limbs, bodyguards and military personnel past and present still working are testament to that fact, and so are those whose have received badly injured limbs and loss of limbs in road traffic collisions for example. I'm quite sure Duncan is aware of Jimbo's own injuries after a car collision whilst travelling around Estonia some years ago, and he's still working. So Duncan's point about his hand is what, he had no insurance to cover loss of earnings whilst recovering from injuries? doesn't think much of personal protection then?, which is strange he enters the risk management and personal protection business. Oh well horses for courses and all that.

Although I do agree with other posters who have expressed bankruptcy can happen to anyone for a number of factors, I do disagree with the quick to judge comment, as there was no suggestion it was quick. However, a court bankruptcy order and extreme financial hardship leading too and during a bankruptcy period I would imagine leaves a notable marked scar on ones memory, Duncan's recall of that period (the dates) is incorrect if not deceptive. Why is that?

He was cut some slack and given a ample chance to edit/correct his post in case he made a typo error or mistake, but can't be bothered was his attitude. Not a very good example of a company director who can't be bothered to clarify matters, especially when that same person invited questions to be put to him, and who is also trying to promote his business at the same time as well as make a successful career in his chosen profession.

Understandably Duncan may feel a little embarrassed by it or feel under pressure to put fee paying backsides on classroom seats in order to fill his IBA training courses, after all Jim Shortt is expecting his percentage cut of the takings whilst sitting pretty at the top of his IBA pyramid business.

Personally, I don't lay blame at Duncan for his extremely poor display and failure to answer questions properly, he is only doing what is taught to him. I lay the blame firmly at his tutor Jim Shortt international conman.
 
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you are one driven person, funnily enough I don't wake up in the morning and think when was that date you know the one when you went to UNI and ended up throwing that away along with your house, partner of that time as well as lots of other things that are dear to you.

Why are every one a Walter mitty just because you say so, please prosecute every one of these people that are doing wrong. Me included.

If you are so certain that there is this conspiracy against honest paying students please do some thing about it, the people that are on good money that's not full time for me that's just what they get from the tasks for me, as well as there CP training, driver training, Aviation,TRASEC training and First Aid training.

There is no way that what ever I say that will make any difference you've made up your mind, then do some thing about it for the betterment of the industry.

Regards Duncan.
 
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