looking for first CPO job

[nQRF]

hi guys i have just completed my CPO course and i am looking hard for work, i am willing to travel and go most places but i still cant find any work so i signed up to here to try an gain some more contacts and to find out about whats happening out their in the CP industry, i know my ages goes against me being 20 but maybe their are jobs out their where the client request's for a younger person but i think thats a long shot. I do really want to futher my self in security i have worked my way up from the very bottom, doing site security/static guard, store detective/retail security, door work and now i just want to keep moving up in the industry an i know i will move up from being CPO when the first option comes up but i want to get all the experience i can from each part of the job and then use it to move up more im still working the doors but now i want to move on i am just waiting on my first oppertunity to prove my self and to learn more an i hope this site will help, cheeres guys

 

[a5955]

nick

to be honest mate, for the middle east gigs you need military service min 5 years. Been around a bit myself and at 20 its hard to get a decent gig, as most clients are looking for guys with life experience.

Your best bet would be if you are so interested in CP is to join the police and after your probation transfer to the Met and do the royalty and diplomatic stuff or go in the RMP their CP course carries alot of weight. either one is a good and an excellent career.

The CP bubble will burst big time soon and the market will become so full with guys coming back from the middle east

 

[Covert Munkey]

Agreed buddy, theres alot of competition out there, Im RMP, CP trained and i highly recommend RMP or a careeer in the armed forces.

Dont want to sound like a 'boring Dad' but seriously this market is saturated with Ex Forces.

Further more the people that are recruiting are Ex forces.

Dont get me wrong I wish you the best of luck but your competing with alot of Ex forces and very experienced lads.

These guys have alot to offer.

Soke up all the info that is within all these threads/posts.

Best of Luck CM

 

[PSA]

Mate,

Your trainning provider should of had the decency before taking your money to inform you that 25 and above is the required age for a CPO. Certainly every client i have worked with have prefered guys 25 and over. I am afraid you will probably have an epic getting employment in an already saturated industry and fighting against experienced and older blokes. Although i am not saying its impossible i wish you luck. Who was your trainning provider ?

 

[silhouette]

I quite agree with PSA, at 20 you are not likely to find employment in CP.
Its about time training providers were held accountable for taking money off people and letting them think that they will make it back.

 

[nQRF]

i did my training with task-int, they were just keen on taking my money. is their any work out their other then CP work that needs level 3 sia licence, what about RST is that worth looking into so i can work my way up

 

[nQRF]

a5955 thanks for the advice on joining the met an going to the RMP i called up the police general numberthe 08457 one ane they put my through to personel department, i had a chat and im going in for interview on wednesday for working within VIP protection escorting if this goes well it will be a start to my career, but i did have to sell my self abit cuz their not intentionaly recruiting at the mo but cuz of my sia level 3 licence i think they saw me as an asset, but i cant imagian why lol! buy the way mate its not for working with the RMP this is for west mercia police is the RMP were i want to be aiming for, cheeres mate

 

[Jamie]

Nick

Sent you a private mail

 

[silhouette]

What the???
Look Nick, I dont want to burst your bubble but you need a reality check.
The SIA level 3 CP license isnt worth the paper its written on to the police. Its purely a civillian qual and one that anyone with a few grand can attain.
There isnt any operational section of the police that operates like you posted.
Everyone in the police does a two year probation before being elligible to specialise.
Whether you misinterpreted the conversation you had with them or whatever, there is a careful selection process that goes into picking suitable individuals to be police officers. The basic training itself is about a year, the application process can take two years.
So, reality check is that if you honestly think that your brand new SIA badge puts you on the fast track to the DPG or similar unit you are a fantasist.
You are 20, have no operational, police, military experience and have done a basic CP course and believe that the police see you as "an asset."
There are hundreds (and I mean hundreds) of experienced CP operators out there that are struggling to get work, they have all been to Iraq/ Afghan and have served in the forces or police. They are highly intelligent, many with additional skills and they are struggling to get work.


Now, some other members may criticise me for being negative or not encouraging a new person into the industry but Im only doing what his training provider should have done, thats tell him the truth.
I am however, sure that the majority of members will back me up on the above comments.

I am sure you are a good DS, I have a lot of respect for DS guys/gals. Its a good earner and requires intelligence and diplomacy. Dont waste any more time / money/ effort on chasing after an unattainable goal - stick to what you are good at and be proud to be doing a job that, at times is as dangerous as high risk CP work. You may not like my advice and comments, but it had to be said.

Best of luck in whatever you choose

 

[jcd]

Total Totaly agree Silhouette , prob the best bit of advise iv seen given on this site.

 

[silhouette]

Thanks JC, I knew I wasnt the only one thinking it

 

[PSA]

Yep,

Thats the required information you should have received Nick, well put silohuette its a dog business and saturated with SIA licensed bods, its the easiest exam i ever sat so any tom dick or harry with a couple of quid can enter the game, what has failed to happen is some of the trainning providers ,most of which sprung up over night ,are churning out some totally shit operators. This is not the fault of the individuals its just poor trainning which people pay alot for.
A reputable trainning company is a must.
Phoenix was a pass fail course just as is Ronin they set an industry standard of competance through reputation and i can vouch there end exams and pratical application are a thousand times more difficult than the SIA. Of course if it was too hard then the government would not make enough money.
Nick to be honest task have had you hook line and sinker . Unless your in the industry or have good guidance from someone in it the above information should have been explained to you.
I become increasingly wound up when i see guys paying large sums for courses and in return recieve only moderate trainning in the basics and above all the lack of honesty with regards of suitability and the reality of becoming successful in the industry.
Nick i wish you well and hope lady luck shines on you for the future.

 

[Craig]

Hi

i am in the army at the moment but my ROD IS 29 Oct 08 and by the time i get out i will be 23 i am looking at doing my course with Katana security (CTG). even though iv spent 7 years in the infantry will is still strugle to find employment.

 

[nQRF]

no i agree guys, i have to do 2 years of probation befor i can do anything i just dont have to do the 2 year public service course at college they said, their is no branch in the police for close protection but they siad they have protection programs that they put ppl into, i have my fire arms licence and that is what they looked at. but i dont really want to do that i just want my first job i have great respect for you guys out their doing it an i understand their are ppl out their that have been doing it befor i was born but i know a guy called barry strethens dont know if any of you have herd of him but he now owns the inkerman group do you guys now if they have a good reputation

 

[nQRF]

sorry not barry strethens i mean john purnell

 

[jcd]

Nick306 ,fire arms licence ???

 

[silhouette]

Well, that changes everything. You will probably be fast tracked onto SO19 now.
You are hearing what you want to hear.
Nobody gets fast tracked anywhere by the police, no basic training will be skipped.

Although, I can understand their interest in you having a firearms license.

 

[PSA]

Firearms license?

 

[jcd]

heh heh ref fire arms licence and police interest,yes so can i

 

[co19]

This has made me laugh alot, I bet Mark Harry found it very easy to get your money off you to get on a Task Course. Unfortunately he will tell you what you want to hear and you fell for it by attending the course.

The police thing, ooh don't get me started....there are protection branches within The Metropolitan Police, but to gain access to these department you will at minimum have 8/10 years service and have done quite a bit in that time. The DPG are just doors gates and posts/Uniformed RST checking on embassies etc and that is it, i know as I had to do it whilst waiting to go up to SO19.

My advice is get into the civilian security market, manned guarding at high end buildings, make yourself shine, move up the ladder. I met 2 people last week that started that way and they both earn a hell of alot of money in building services. At least you may earn some good contacts in corporate companies.

Oh yes, no one in the UK is allowed a firearms licence for a handgun, you may possess one for a shot gun or rifle if it in relation to sports of culling of animals.

And the SIA means nothing to the police, sorry!

Nick