MOD Police and CNC

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matt7101

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Hi, Just wondered,
Do MOD police and CNC have ARV's? If so what would there roles be?
Are MOD always armed when out and about between bases or only when on bases?
MOD police at Whitehall and other london establishments, are they armed or do the Met cover the armed parts?

Thanks
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MAtt
 
Thanks, so CNC are always armed, while MOD have only 70% of there officers armed at 1 time. Would home office forces use MOD or CNC police as ARV's if there units are unavalible or if closer?
 
Why all the interest in the various armed police forces? In another post you even asked what sort of spare kit Met ARV's carry with them. The questions your asking aren't the sort I would expect from someone who was interested in joining.
 
I am currently studying a Btec in Public Services and trying to get all the info i can for a project i need to do. Due to what happened at Stockwell, i have decided to look into armed policing in the UK, seeing the differences between forces if everyone is trained to same standards. I have spoken to some Police forces, but there info was limited. ANd after i have completed my BTEC i a looking at joining a police force.
 
Ah, that makes sense. Obviously some of the information you're looking for is sensitive and you're not going to get answers.
You might find this article useful
Whitehaven News

Maybe your project will need to look at a more theoretical angle of how the different forces might co-operate and what problems that may create. ie. if CNC police were called in to deal with an armed robbery at the local bank they might not have powers to move civilians out of the area and might need the local police to do that. You'd need to consider who would need to give authority to bring them in and whether command would be handed over to them or whether command would still come from the local constabulary.

By the way CNC police are a Home Office force, but they report direct to the Home Office rather than through their local force.
 
littlewoman said:
By the way CNC police are a Home Office force, but they report direct to the Home Office rather than through their local force.
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actully I think I'm right in saying it reports to the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry.

matt7101- send me a PM with an email and I will try and send you a copy of my disertation - "the publics perception of overtly armed police in a laregly unarmed socity" thats assuming I still have the electronic copy on my hardrive
 
mrrandom said:
actully I think I'm right in saying it reports to the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry.

matt7101- send me a PM with an email and I will try and send you a copy of my disertation - "the publics perception of overtly armed police in a laregly unarmed socity" thats assuming I still have the electronic copy on my hardrive
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How about attaching your disertation on here? It would be an interesting read!
 
mrrandom said:
actully I think I'm right in saying it reports to the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry.
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I stand corrected.
According to their website the CNC police are now under the Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform. It seems they changed who they report to when they changed their name (they still get called the Ukulele Police around here).
Personally I'm not happy at the idea of having an armed police force in the area that reports to the governments business dept rather than a department whose job is to deal with security or justice.
 
matt7101 said:
I am currently studying a Btec in Public Services and trying to get all the info i can for a project i need to do. Due to what happened at Stockwell, i have decided to look into armed policing in the UK, seeing the differences between forces if everyone is trained to same standards. I have spoken to some Police forces, but there info was limited. ANd after i have completed my BTEC i a looking at joining a police force.
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If your doing a Btec in Public Services you will be better off doing it on services that are paid for by the public wouldn't you? i.e. home office forces, the CNC are funded through the DTI and conversely they get their funding by the site operators, so whilst the CNC provide a policing role, its not in the traditional manner and is very specific in its objectives.

Btec in public services, why are you concentrating on non home office armed units? can anyone spell witchunt?
 
DirrrtyDave77 said:
Littlewoman=

You from marrah land then? do i detect a little bit of a hint of a conspiracy theorist! :-)
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just don't like the idea of something as critical as nuclear security having decisions made from a business point of view rather than a security point of view. I would have also thought that having both the local constabulary and the CNC reporting to the same dept would make it easier at any time where they have to work together.
 
mrrandom said:
Not a problem I will take a look through all the porn - erm I ment alterantive art on my hard drive and see if I can find a copy


I must however warn you I got a crap mark for it
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Now don't get all bashful on us!!!!

Looking forward to it.
 
littlewoman said:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just don't like the idea of something as critical as nuclear security having decisions made from a business point of view rather than a security point of view. I would have also thought that having both the local constabulary and the CNC reporting to the same dept would make it easier at any time where they have to work together.
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lol for what its worth i agree but hey ho :-)
 
guys I've had to email my old course director as i can't find a copy- give me some time and wi will do my best to post a copy for you to read

just no pisstaking about the crap conclusions ;)
 
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