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Point

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Hey guys, I'm in the UK and looking to do my CP course, I've booked on with phoenix security uk, I'm on a different course right now and people are warning me not to do my course with them, what are your guys thoughts on phoenix ?
 

MrBlonde

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A lot depends on you and your ability and experience.
There's not much CP work around at the minute, as most posts are either filled or there's plenty of well established guys in people's phones for when someone is needed. This industry is very much 'who you know and who will vouch for you'
If you've got contacts and experience (ex-Police or Military etc) and literally just need the SIA licence to work, then it doesn't matter too much who you train with.
If you're new to the industry then it matters a great deal who trains you as you're operating on their reputation until you build your own.
I've no experience of this particular Phoenix so can't comment on them; the only phoenix I'd recommend is the one linked to G4S, not because they're especially good, but because if you shine on the course, they'll push you in to one of their own positions, and they have a huge number of contracts.
 

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Point,
Where in the UK are you?
I know a couple good providers I could suggest

Regards

premier
 

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Point,
Where in the UK are you?
I know a couple good providers I could suggest

Regards

premier
Hey premier,

I'm kind of near bath, I've already paid for the course, the reason I'm asking for your guys opinions on them is because I resently did a firearms course abroad and talked to acouple cpo's over there who said they were all warned not to do there course with phoenix.

I already have a job lined up with the security company I work for so that's not a big issue, I just don't wanna waste my money.

All the best
Point
 

MrBlonde

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It's only a waste of money if you see this as your only learning, pass the course and think you're now a shit-hot CPO and that's the end of your CPD.
If it's paid for then go do it and get your SIA licence and start work, then look at more advanced training, a driving course, medical, security management, leadership training, surveillance detection training, learn a language...

Look at what your typical Principal does in his or her life and do something to make you appeal to them more than the next guy - SCUBA or Powerboat certification, learn to ride a horse so you can go out with them and keep up etc
Work on your fitness so when the boss goes for his morning run you can stay with him, be alert and not embarrass yourself as the sweaty mess lagging behind.
Look at finance or business courses, initially so you can hold a decent conversation in the car if the boss feels chatty, and understand more about their life, pressures and decisions as you work for them. The more you can integrate and 'fit in' the more valuable you become and the more successful you'll be.

As a CPO you're protecting someone's life, typically someone important, rich or both. They can afford to hire the best and to be fair, it's their life on the line if they choose badly so why wouldn't they pick the best?
So invest in yourself and be the best

The Phoenix course should only be the very start of your journey - it might be a good course, those who warned you off might have a personal grievance behind what they said, or it might be a very average course. Doesn't really matter unless it's the only CP training you ever do as like I said above you're then trading yourself on their reputation, so make sure it's not all you do and it's not an issue.
 
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