Some Guidelines for potential new Marsec Operators

If you can get your hands on a Thuraya do so, otherwise that's all you'll have , some ships will let you buy credit to use on their SATCOM and will have a radio room for privacy, others will only have it on the bridge, so your lovey dovey calls will be heard by all on watch!

If you're based out of Djibouti, you will get a signal on most UK networks but it IS VERY expensive, and you will lose the signal about 5-8 NM out the harbour, and that will be you till you hit coastal waters of your transit, IF you're sailing down the coast of India close enough, you will have a signal most of the way as long as you're no more than 15-20NM off the coast..then again once you're close enough to Sri lanka again, you'll get the roaming signal, but for the better part of 7-8 days you'll have nothing.
Some ships have all singing all dancing wifi and internet access, so skype etc works, but all the ships I had the luxury of being on didn't have it onboard.
The TL is normally allowed to send emails/SITREPs to their Ops, but be aware anything confidential can and WILL be read by the Skipper/Chief Officer, so no gobbing off about shytty conditions etc .
 
cheers true blue for the information this has been a great help to me as im out the services this year and wishing to start in the marsec industry
 
Argyll cheers for the wake up call. There is always going to be a harsh reality when trying to find a new line of work, ive only had one job interveiw for work and that was nearly 24 years ago. so when it comes to finding work in the marsec or any other industry i dare say it will be hard unless you know people already with a foot in the door and that does'nt always guarenty you a job. im looking forward to coming out of the services and can only hope i land on my feet running. ive been searching the websites and alot of companys dont seem to be recruiting at the minute. Thanks once more.
 
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Great thread, making me think very seriously and also looking harder into marsec. I know 2000% more than I did five minutes ago and yet I feel I've barely scratched the surface.
 
Im Looking At Starting A Career In CP/Anti Piracy, This Thread Has Become regular Reading For Me And I Find It Very Informable So Thankyou To Every One Who takes Their Time To Write In It.
Can Anyone Reccomend A Company In Which I Could Use To Gain The Relevent Qualifications Needed To Work Within This Industry Please
 
knight2364 said:
Im Looking At Starting A Career In CP/Anti Piracy, This Thread Has Become regular Reading For Me And I Find It Very Informable So Thankyou To Every One Who takes Their Time To Write In It.
Can Anyone Reccomend A Company In Which I Could Use To Gain The Relevent Qualifications Needed To Work Within This Industry Please
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Give Oxberry Maritime a call; I'm fairly certain you'll get a no nonsense answer - as in a straight yes or no if your background doesn't lend itself to a credible chance of gaining work...
 
I would simply like to provide an update to the information posted by the initiator of this thread.

This information you read below has been kindly provided by International Maritime Security, an MCA accredited company who have been around since 1986.

An important feature of the Manila amendments is the additional emphasis given to the need for seafarers’ standards of competence to be maintained throughout their careers.

All seafarers are now required to provide evidence of appropriate levels of competence in basic safety training (including survival, fire-fighting, first aid, and personal safety) every five years.

This can be achieved through STCW Basic Training certification from any of the countries listed on "The White List" which identifies the countries that have demonstrated a plan of full compliance with the STCW Convention and Code as revised in 1995. The White List was developed by an unbiased panel of "competent persons" at the IMO.

The criteria used to develop the list included what system of certification each administration would have, the process of revalidation for certificates, training centre oversight, port state control, and flag state control.

Contrary to some information that I have recently heard, STCW Basic Training certificates issued by other countries are recognized by MCA Maritime Coastguard Agency

This can be verified by going directly to their website:

Deck FAQ's

It reads:

Which countries' Short Courses Certificates do you accept?
Basic Training: We accept certificates from all countries on the STCW White List.
Advanced Training: Medical First Aid, Advanced Fire Fighting, Proficiency in Survival Craft & Rescue Boats and Medical Care are acceptable from India, the Republic of Ireland, New Zealand, Canada, Pakistan, South Africa and all European Union (EU) member states.
 
Prof this looks very similar to the thread you started yesterday on which you haven't replied to my question.

What's up are the courses in Latvia not going well?
 
How long does it usually takes, when company doing a backround check on you (before hiring)?
Share your experiences.
 
I have been hearing from friends that the industry is getting saturated and increasingly more difficult to get into. how much truth is there in this?
 
dspillane said:
I have been hearing from friends that the industry is getting saturated and increasingly more difficult to get into. how much truth is there in this?
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The industry has always been difficult to get into, the British Armed Forces and especially the Navy have an outstanding reputation with ship owners. Being just British or just ex-services has never been enough and this frustrates many who have tried and failed to break into the job.

Demand is increasing, but you are right in that supply of suitably qualified and experienced personnel is also increasing and the latter certainly out strips the former.

As ever, if you have the right background, have kept your skills updated and your bring something extra to the party then you stand a good chance. Equally if you don't quite tick all the boxes, then now is no better time than the past was.
 
Customloads said:
The industry has always been difficult to get into, the British Armed Forces and especially the Navy have an outstanding reputation with ship owners. Being just British or just ex-services has never been enough and this frustrates many who have tried and failed to break into the job.

Demand is increasing, but you are right in that supply of suitably qualified and experienced personnel is also increasing and the latter certainly out strips the former.

As ever, if you have the right background, have kept your skills updated and your bring something extra to the party then you stand a good chance. Equally if you don't quite tick all the boxes, then now is no better time than the past was.
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I'd disagree mate. If you don't tick the boxes then now is a worse time than it ever was!
 
Every man and his dog is trying to get into maritime, however PMSC's are being more stringent in the selection and due diligence process when recruiting and with the industry now having some guidelines being adopted by PMSC's the Shipping companies will be as stringent in their due diligence process by saying they want the Security companies to have a certain criteria as regards to qualifications etc.
 
Customloads said:
Then you agree with me, that is what I was saying. Though I used too many double negatives I think! lol
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Lol, Agree to agree in that case then!

I've just been signed up by a new company and their vetting has taken 6 weeks to go through and that was with me turning every bit of paperwork they sent around and back to them within the hour.
 
Back to the Subject thread.... I've got some 'guidelines for the potential new operator'. Stop posting in the above sub-forums because nobody can comment on a thread there. Hence the reason why the threads all have hundreds of views but no comments. We're not being ignorant guys!
 
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