Symbiont security limited

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No John,

But in comparison to others it looks ok, although not sure about the airsoft M16 practicality due to time constraints on all other subject matter. Good to see they have some training influence concerning the use of vehicles and I like the fact they state that the training may involve the candidates to have clothes for getting 'dirty'.

Nice webiste but proof is in the pudding. At present it looks like they serve cream on top. Whether it is organic or UHT is another question...


Rich H
 
Know nothing about them and as Rich says, nice website. The mis-spelling of "Physical" on the homepage doesn't fill me with confidence though!? A pretty basic error for a legit company? Just my opinion.
 
standard flash website. Can be purchased for around a ton a believe and then you you just put your content in. I know nothing about them and the site does not fill me with any confidence.
 
Know nothing about them and as Rich says, nice website. The mis-spelling of "Physical" on the homepage doesn't fill me with confidence though!? A pretty basic error for a legit company? Just my opinion.

Fat fingers? I doubt the company even did the website itself.

A website is not often useful in judging a company because anyone with a few quid can get a professional to knock it up just providing the content.
 
SCAB, fair point mate but I keep going back to the old adage "First impressions count" All the experienced pro's on this forum are always telling newcomers like me (quite rightly) that professionalism and a good first impression are vital. Surely a training provider would be demonstrating that? The website is the initial advert for the company and as such should have been checked and checked again.
 
I agree first impressions count, but people are nitpicking over its presentation and a spelling mistake. Lets keep thinking relevant to the subject at hand lest our threat and risk assessments start taking into account an asteroid strike or someone random sneaking an IED into our principals Jag at random...
 
Hello matey peeps, basics here, do their courses and instructors have the required qualifications? 7302/7303... SIA CP licensed themselves? If not....... it's a no brainer... IMHO
 
Hello ladies and gents.
Few info:
Symbiont was set up by polish guys and is run in London mainly.They are claiming that they are the biggest polish security in uk.
they offer treining but they are not running them themselws just finding heads and taking commision.
their motto on polish Uk based websites are that you can earn that much and that much for actualy doing less work than in the warehouse etc..(very proffesional aproach hahaha)treining are cheap...and from polish blogs I did found out that their quality is poor.)


Date Incorporated: Jul 09, 2008
the only person who is actualy well known is Agata wrobel ...witch is a a havy waight lifting champion and I belive that have no expirience in security cp etc whatsoewer.than you have got guys whos qualification are : mma,kick boxing etc no way that they have been working as cpo or psd but i might be wrong.
like for me they have a very long way to become pros.
(like meHA HA HA ...but at least Im saing this with no problems when they are claiming fantasy based things...)

seb
 
I cannot speak for all of that but since the guy who got them their CP training accreditation is a colleague of mine I'll clear a few points for you:

Their DS training is done by themselves under the umbrella of another organisation

their motto on polish Uk based websites are that you can earn that much and that much for actualy doing less work than in the warehouse etc..(very proffesional aproach hahaha)treining are cheap...

Not sure what that even means!!

Agata Wrobel, I have never heard of her but am pretty sure there are no females involved on the security training team.

Not sure if you or others are confusing the MMA side of the company (they have a gym attached) with the security training side. I know the extent of my mates training & qualification and I also know he would not be working alongside people who are unqualified

mma,kick boxing etc no way that they have been working as cpo or psd but i might be wrong.

Is completely unobjective. Whats the point of even writing that?


If you want some references, lets ask John Twells, he sent a couple of guys to Symbiont for CP training.
 
Hello ladies and gents.
Few info:
Symbiont was set up by polish guys and is run in London mainly.They are claiming that they are the biggest polish security in uk.
they offer treining but they are not running them themselws just finding heads and taking commision.
their motto on polish Uk based websites are that you can earn that much and that much for actualy doing less work than in the warehouse etc..(very proffesional aproach hahaha)treining are cheap...and from polish blogs I did found out that their quality is poor.)


Date Incorporated: Jul 09, 2008
the only person who is actualy well known is Agata wrobel ...witch is a a havy waight lifting champion and I belive that have no expirience in security cp etc whatsoewer.than you have got guys whos qualification are : mma,kick boxing etc no way that they have been working as cpo or psd but i might be wrong.
like for me they have a very long way to become pros.
(like meHA HA HA ...but at least Im saing this with no problems when they are claiming fantasy based things...)

seb

I do some work for symbiont and Seb its absolute Bull what you have posted above. Yes the website is a bit tacky, but looking at yours its not exactly a piccaso either.
Very fewof the candidtes book through the website, most come through polish ppers or mags or are recommended by friends who have trained with the company.

The owner of the company is a friend of Agata ( who has a door sups licence by the way) and uses her to promote his company to some of the less security aware Polish out there. Not the greatest impression I agree, she is not part of the training team.

Training provided is provided by qualified and experienced trainers (myself included) I have 20 years experience in the security industry spanning services,C.P, and door supervision. It is Not provided by another company as you say.

The only polish that complain are the ones that dont pass the exams - 3 failed the last c.p course due to sub-standard portfolios and were not allowed to sit the final multi-choice exam, that was our call!

We up-keep standards and were commendeded by Bill Croft, Edexcels external verifyier on his last visit.

Ken Wharf is also involved in symbionts C.P courses (Kenwas HRH Diana's B.G for 14 years)

I have been involved with this company for over a year and instruct on the C.P courses which are run every two months (next one 18 may in Girona,spain) and instruct the door supervisor courses every second week at their training centre in east London. With 20 years expeience working doors you will be hard pressed to find an instructor with as much experience, as most of you know there are a lot of door sup's courses run by people who have never stood on a door!

I also run a physical management course for them after the door sups course every fortnight, to give candidates an idea of what reasonable force is and how to apply conflict management and breakaway techniques - something that is very usefull to people comming to work in the U.k in the security industry who are used of different legal aspects in their country of origins - This course (physical management) is CHEAP as it is not yet accreddited by an awarding body ( it will be quite soon, and wont be so cheap.)

Seb I have a suspicion you are polish yourself -you would not be the first polish firm to try and discredit symbiont who have sewn up the polish market in the London area!

You got a long way to go to prove your "private detective" skills that you advertise on your website mate!
 
F*ck me boys take this private now, eh.

Made me laugh oddjob - nice one.

Not getting heated dont worry, too tired anyway;)

I am an instructor on Symbionts courses so someone mis-informing peole about the company is mis-informing people about me and as you know your reputation is all you have a lot of the time particulary in C.P
Just one other point. check this link for feedback on the last course. The relevant post is the second last on the page.
http://www.closeprotectionworld.co....sh-pub/13588-longmoor-group-bought-out-2.html
 
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Only thing I know about them is they do DS courses. The guy I met was called keiron and he advertised on Gumtree around November and my mate did a door in kensington for him but i don't know if he had left the company or what.
Cheers
ACP
 
grin who wants the salted pop corn ? I am eating the sweet stuff! ;)

And dont forget this all gets indexed in google. As in may well be tommorow grin :)

Monty
 
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