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I was pleased to see The One Show on BBC1 yesterday highlighting the dangers cash couriers face on a daily basis.

They interviewed a gentleman who formally worked for G4S, sadly shot in the leg - despite surrendering the cash - and now forced to walk with crutches. As well as, the poor conditions they must work under.

Although I was pleased to see armed police now escorting cash vans on the run up to Christmas, when there seems to be a spike in CVIT robberies.

Nothing subtle about it, bunch of heavily built, heavily armed men in blue leaping out of Land Rovers. Anyone would think royalty was in town.


Worth a watch and I welcome your opinions
 
Interesting read as I now believe that Civilian companies are doing the same thing, but of course not armed.

You will probably see this being a major Operation when the Olympics are in town!!!!
 
Jet said:
I was pleased to see The One Show on BBC1 yesterday highlighting the dangers cash couriers face on a daily basis.

They interviewed a gentleman who formally worked for G4S, sadly shot in the leg - despite surrendering the cash - and now forced to walk with crutches. As well as, the poor conditions they must work under.

Although I was pleased to see armed police now escorting cash vans on the run up to Christmas, when there seems to be a spike in CVIT robberies.

Nothing subtle about it, bunch of heavily built, heavily armed men in blue leaping out of Land Rovers. Anyone would think royalty was in town.


Worth a watch and I welcome your opinions
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Interesing viewing Jet and a bit of an eye opener. I have to admit living in the rurals as I do, I did not think that CIT 'scores' were or are as big a problem as they are.

I feel that tactically companies could be doing a lot more to protect their workforce..?

Carl
 
I have worked for a civillian company doing overt following of the vehicle, you had company fleece on, lightweight vest ect, it did work as a deterrent as the robbers could see it was to much hassle trying it on. They would wait for an unescorted van to hit, job finished as the cash in transit company's budget was cut, suprisingly after we pulled out the robberies started again.
 
After working for a short time in the private sector for CVIT, my hat comes off to anyone working in this part fo the industry. The hastle that they get, the targets that they have to hit, the hours worked and the risks they take.....some feeling it necessary to break procedure to get the job done in a sensible time.

With the Union breaking the back of the companies, the companies stopping overtime and guys unable to take on second jobs due to the drivers hours regs, this sector is massivley under estimated in keeping this country moving and I thnk that guys dong it shoudl be afforded more help in doing their jobs.

I know that there are swings and round-abouts in all of teh sectors, pros and cons to all but, carrying thousands of pounds over the pavement in a risky area of the city, to a thankless £9 /ph and with the threat of a "capping" with only a hat and visor for protection.....as I said, my hat comes off to you all.

Keep safe...

Walks
 
The question is, what can be done?

To arm private security contractors raises eyebrows with the police who would see no reason why they can't be armed themselves. Which in itself raises problems as the government has had a long-standing policy not arming officers for quite obvious reasons.

Most banks, stores and supermarkets are not built to accommodate CIT vans. Guards sometimes have to walk hundreds of yards lumbering a box, instead of just having a secure hatch in the wall which you can sling it through.

To have armed police escort security contractors on a daily basis derives resources from other areas. For example, what if a siege occurs in one area of London. Do you draft officers to that area and risk the cash guard getting hit?

It's not acceptable that companies such as G4S appear to be cutting the number of fleet whilst putting pressure on existing drivers and I mean come on, £9.00 an hour for a job transporting potentially millions?

Well, that's my rant over :D
 
Jet said:
The question is, what can be done?

To arm private security contractors raises eyebrows with the police who would see no reason why they can't be armed themselves. Which in itself raises problems as the government has had a long-standing policy not arming officers for quite obvious reasons.

Most banks, stores and supermarkets are not built to accommodate CIT vans. Guards sometimes have to walk hundreds of yards lumbering a box, instead of just having a secure hatch in the wall which you can sling it through.

To have armed police escort security contractors on a daily basis derives resources from other areas. For example, what if a siege occurs in one area of London. Do you draft officers to that area and risk the cash guard getting hit?

It's not acceptable that companies such as G4S appear to be cutting the number of fleet whilst putting pressure on existing drivers and I mean come on, £9.00 an hour for a job transporting potentially millions?

Well, that's my rant over :D
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The only way that tis sector will ever improve is to give the guys who work in this area the best training (above and beyond the SIA crap), afford them the best equipment, get rid of the Unions crippleing the companies and in turn the workers and make companies understand that under such risks and pressure, the last thing these guys should be thinking about is making sure they complete 40 drops in one day and the extras because the crap van on route 10 has broken down.......again!

It will never be risk free but there are things that can be done to help lessen the threat and give the guys a more workable atmophere.

Walks
 
Here in the netherlands they have paintsuitcase if someone try to rob a cash courier
the cash courier or his/her collegue pushes a button and a bomb of paint exploses in the cashsuitcase. the money is totally covered with paint, and is useless
 
In the UK, various differant boxes are used from smoke to paint. One issue is that even if the money is just handed over or a button pressed, it still doesn't mean the robbers are going to let you off scott free and give you a smack aroudn the head or even in this blokes case, shoot them.

Again, it comes down to the individuals working, the trianing they are given and the support of the companies.
 
Walks99 said:
The only way that tis sector will ever improve is to give the guys who work in this area the best training (above and beyond the SIA crap), afford them the best equipment, get rid of the Unions crippleing the companies and in turn the workers and make companies understand that under such risks and pressure, the last thing these guys should be thinking about is making sure they complete 40 drops in one day and the extras because the crap van on route 10 has broken down.......again!

It will never be risk free but there are things that can be done to help lessen the threat and give the guys a more workable atmophere.

Walks
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Totally agree
 
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