Realistically how much work is out there if you don't know someone on the rigs (Medic

Hi Mark,
I know the military guys are not going to get registration just like that, but i am a firm believer in the fact that anyone who deals with patients has some kind of accountability for their actions. Many of my friends are military medics and i agree their skill set is outstanding, however there is also a huge misconception of what paramedics actually do as well, particularly amongst other medical professionals. As you know, we dont just 'do trauma' at all, in fact far from it. Even in a hugely busy urban environment, trauma makes up a small part of the workload. Like PaulE i worked for a number of years in a walk in centre with a huge footfall of 'minors' patients, so the belief that we just do trauma is flawed. In fact I read an interesting post on here the other day that stated something along the lines of 'how is your paramedic qualification going to help you when dealing with an overweight 50 year old smoker with chest pain'!! Now i'm sorry but i think you'll find thats what we do do!
Dazzler
 
dazzler2439 said:
Hi Mark,
I know the military guys are not going to get registration just like that, but i am a firm believer in the fact that anyone who deals with patients has some kind of accountability for their actions. Many of my friends are military medics and i agree their skill set is outstanding, however there is also a huge misconception of what paramedics actually do as well, particularly amongst other medical professionals. As you know, we dont just 'do trauma' at all, in fact far from it. Even in a hugely busy urban environment, trauma makes up a small part of the workload. Like PaulE i worked for a number of years in a walk in centre with a huge footfall of 'minors' patients, so the belief that we just do trauma is flawed. In fact I read an interesting post on here the other day that stated something along the lines of 'how is your paramedic qualification going to help you when dealing with an overweight 50 year old smoker with chest pain'!! Now i'm sorry but i think you'll find thats what we do do!
Dazzler
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So what you are saying is all Military medics should not be working, right??

It sounds like you have only experience as a Paramedic, I have experience of both sides and I work offshore so I know exactly what I see and what I do and what parts of which role have been useful

When you mention that you worked in a walk in centre you are in essence doing much the same as a military medic does day to day while working in the sickbay or medical centre unless they are on operations or exercise, in that case they will see a completely different demographic and injuries that give you an whole new meaning to trauma, it will take several years of this to get to CMT1

Your average Paramedic of which I presume you are not has you have worked in walk in centres (ECP??) has limited exposure to this and this is without mentioning the actual running of stores, audits and paperwork etc physically working alone and with limited back up is also not something that I presume most Paramedics deal with very often

This is not to slate Paramedics as I have a lot of mates doing the job and utmost respect for them but it pisses me right off when people come on saying that people who have been doing this job for years are no longer suitable because they don't have the correct bit of paper....rant over
 
Mark,
Why would i suggest that military medics shouldnt be working??? I simply stated that I believe in registration, both to protect the patient and the medic. I dont see anything wrong with that? I apologise if youve taken it the wrong way
Daz
 
dazzler2439 said:
Mark,
Why would i suggest that military medics shouldnt be working??? I simply stated that I believe in registration, both to protect the patient and the medic. I dont see anything wrong with that? I apologise if youve taken it the wrong way
Daz
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We all want registration mate but quite simply it is not going to happen for military medics, the military have no wish to push this and what is far more likely to happen, and what is already happening to a certain extent, is companies asking for Nurses only. I have registered with IRHC but the more I see of it the less I like it and do not believe it is going to help with any kind of registration for remote of offshore medics.
 
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Paramedics have no experience of working alone?

EMT's and Paramedics routinely work alone all over the UK.

The working alone part is even more significant if working in an over worked Urban Ambulance Service such as London when you can be left without the back up of an Ambulance crew for hours on end.

And the me ruin of the Degree did make me chuckle.

Have seen the good, bad and downright indifferent staff being produced by the Universities.

Specifically Hertfordshire and Greenwich.

There simply needs to be attention paid to the Individual.

As no qualification is a guarantee of quality care or in fact clinical knowledge.

I have seen CMT's that are rubbish, seen EMT's that are rubbish, Paramedics with 20 yrs that couldn't intubate or get an IV line without the help of their EMT crewmate.

I have even seen one particular ECP that I wouldn't let loose on my dog.

I have also seen plenty more that I would entrust my life and my kids lives with.

That fact that Nurses are held in such high regard in some instances as far as offshore work goes and with training providers is simply due to the fact a lot of ex Nurses are involved with the training providers.

Could my sister work offshore?

Maybe with more training.

But if you end up in ICU in Central Scotland you will be thankful if she is the nurse in charge of the unit you are in.

Lets focus on the person and not just certificates.

The medical side is only one part of an Ambulance workers workload.

For evidence just look back at A4C.

And also if you daily the IHCD/Edexel part of a Paramedic Science degree you get a Health Sciences degree.

That last little bit is what makes you a Paramedic, not the degree.

I am glad I have now retired early due to injury.

The entire pre Hospital industry seems to be getting more political and less patient care focused.

I have a mate who's brother was a medic in the North Sea for a few years.

He had no medical experience before hand.

But his dad used to work on the supply boats and was seriously injured in an accident
And never worked offshore again.

Coincidence?

No.

It was the same company.

I think this shows you that who you know does help signinficantly.

Just my two pence.
 
PaulE said:
Hi All,
Looking to book BOSIET and HSE course next month but worried that I might be leaving a full-time job to find that I have lengthy spells of unemployment. I am a State Registered Paramedic with over 18 years of experience both on the road and in a teaching capacity. I have an First class degree in pre-hospital care as well as other relevant educational Diplomas and certificates. I have been accepted by Capita to do the courses due to previous Prison Service experience. Would anyone recommend them for the afore said courses? Recommendations appreciated.

Would anyone care to comment as to the supply of work out there for offshore Medics? Wife is concerned rightly so that it might be too high a risk to take bearing in mind that I don't know anyone offshore and whilst reading several posts both on here and other forums it would appear a distinct advantage to know someone..

The daily rate of pay seems to be guarded information if anyone would be willing to take the time to pm me I would be very grateful if they didn't want to post for publice viewing. £3-4k for the courses is a considerable minecraft apk investment and I don't want to make an expensive mistake.

Thanks in advance for any advice or information
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Totally valid concerns—offshore medic roles can be rewarding but are competitive. With your experience and qualifications, you're well-positioned, though networking is key. Capita has a solid reputation for training, and many have used them as a stepping stone. Just ensure you're realistic about initial downtime and building contacts. Best of luck!
 
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