Save the Chandlers

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The Independent has been asking questions of the sad case of the Chandlers, stating that it is very unlucky for the couple that they are human beings. Were they barrels of crude or frozen carcasses of Australian beef, their ordeal at the hands of the Somali pirates who captured them last October would have been brought briskly to an end by the arrival of negotiators acting for the relevant insurance companies, the handing over of cases stuffed with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a businesslike handshake.
That is how our wealthy world deals with pirates when they attack our commercial interests – with supreme pragmatism. We know all about this: it’s no secret. We tolerate it. No one makes a fuss or cries foul. The pirates are not paid off as a matter of choice but necessity. Somalia has no government. At least 17 national navies have dispatched ships to intimidate, chase or attack the pirates that come out of Somalia, but the Indian Ocean is huge, the pirates are ruthless, and often – about one-quarter of the time – they succeed in netting their prey. And then, so the wheels of commerce can continue to turn, they must be paid off.
But when what is at stake is just a couple of ageing British citizens, morality suddenly rears its head as an excellent reason to do nothing. The familiar Foreign Office mantra is heard in the land: “We do not negotiate with pirates/terrorists/ hostage-takers.†It is as brutally simple as that.
And the Foreign Office means what it says. The crew who captured the Chandlers initially believed they might be as valuable as an oil tanker, and demanded $3m for their release. The answering silence made them aware that, despite their white skins, they were not as lucky a catch as they seemed.
In November a man called Nick Davis, who had set up the not-for-profit Merchant Maritime Warfare Centre to help shipping companies tackle the pirate menace, got involved and claimed that in negotiations he had succeeded in beating the hostage-takers down to a ransom of $100,000 – but that deal was sunk when the Foreign Office refused to get involved.
Last week Mr Davis said he believed the release of an interview and videos of the Chandlers meant that their captors were keen to do a deal. “It’s costing them a lot of money to keep them alive,†he said. “I have a suspicion they will soon lose patience. The Government needs to understand that this could turn against them.†But Mr Miliband’s department showed not a flicker of interest. For Britain, negotiations are a no-no, and that’s that. Hostages may be freed in a firefight, at great risk to their lives and the lives of others; but failing that, unless their captors see the error of their ways and simply let them go, they are under sentence of death.
This is our habitual way of dealing with such problems. The list of innocent British citizens who have been shot, decapitated or otherwise disposed of grows steadily longer. We remember tragic Keith Bigley, his beheading filmed and broadcast, the charity worker Margaret Hassan, blindfolded and shot dead after nearly a month in captivity, the others seized and murdered in the darkest days of post-war Iraq. All of them pleaded for help from their homeland, but in every case they were met by the stony mantra.
We have our happy endings too, but rarely thanks to the Government. Alan Johnston, the BBC’s man in Gaza, was freed after a noisy campaign by his fellow-journalists, and widespread revulsion at his kidnapping by the people of the Strip. Peter Moore’s liberation was nothing to do with the Foreign Office but the result of the US freeing a prominent Iranian prisoner.
There are no British figures equivalent to Florence Aubenas, the journalist with Libération, the French newspaper, or Susanne Osthoff, the German archaeologist, or the “Two Simonasâ€, Italian charity workers Simona Pari and Simona Torretta. All were freed in murky circumstances, amid rumours that millions had been paid for their release. But for people back home, the question of how they were sprung was secondary. What mattered above all was the saving of those lives.
And that is the crux of the matter: for the French, Germans, Italians, etc, (the list goes on), the over-riding priority is that these innocent unfortunates are set free, and the pressure on their governments to act effectively is intense. The public in these countries identifies with the fate of these individuals as closely as their immediate families do.
But in Britain, we don’t, and so the Government feels under no pressure to do anything but go through the motions and recite the mantra. Look at the niggardly support the effort to free the Chandlers has attracted. The Save the Chandlers website is run by a man living in California. It is trying to raise money to pay off the pirates, but at the last count, after the photographs of the desperately emaciated Rachel Chandler had been splashed across the papers, it had amassed a grand total of $900.
That pathetic sum reflects deep public indifference to a couple who are not young and pretty, not famous, not special in any way, so we couldn’t care less. Read the online comments that news articles about their plight attract: chiding their foolishness in wanting to take a look at the Tanzanian coast, bemoaning the absence of a Maggie Thatcher who would give the pirates a good bashing, insisting over and over again, as if it were a badge of courage, on the iniquity of paying ransom. And, despite the millions being paid for the release of merchant ships, invoking Kipling’s argument for them being allowed to die:
“… And that is called paying the Dane-geld,
And we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld,
You will never get rid of the Dane.â€
Fortunately, not everyone in Britain thinks like this. Last week, during Friday prayers at their local mosque, Somalis living in Bristol launched an appeal to raise money to obtain the couple’s freedom. As reported in local newspapers, they called on each of the 500,000 Somalis living in Britain to give £10 towards their release.
Mohammed Omer, a local businessman, told a reporter, “We feel sorry for them and hope the pirates let them go… If the Government doesn’t want to pay, the Somali community in Britain will.â€
One might have thought this show of compassion from people of a different race and faith might have shamed the Chandlers’ countrymen into showing some sympathy. Instead, this was one of the comments on the Bristol newspaper’s website:
“So the taxes I pay from working full-time go to many Somali’s [sic] to live here and do nothing to pay their way is then saved up by them only to pay the ransom set by their fellow Somali’s [sic] in Somalia who are holding British people captive. Joke!â€
Another wrote in similar vein: “If they want to sponsor Somalian terrorists, go home and do it!â€
These are comments which, in one venomous reflex, flush the whole subject down the toilet: the bitter suffering of Somali civilians in their civil wars, the decency of Britain in giving them asylum, the generous impulse of the Somalis of Bristol, and the Chandlers’ mortal plight.
There is certainly an issue of morality involved in negotiating with these particular kidnappers, but not in the way it is usually framed. It comes down to a simple question: whatever happened to our compassion? Why don’t we care?
 
Trublue, Wise Words Indeed!

I believe that compassion is an environmental thing; if you live in an environment where compassion and thought for others is maintained, then you include it and accept it as part of your daily life. This is something that is not just the responsibility of the people, but critically, of the Government the people elect and how compassionate they are at key times, towards their electors - the public!

Governments have to set an example and whether its publically, or behind the scenes, people need to know that their Government care, that they have compassion and will (apologies for the Maggie reference) defend the flag and it's citizens "Wherever they may be".
The Government paying a public ransom for the release of the Chandlers is not going to happen, BUT after this period of time, SOMETHING should have been done!
The raising of ransom funds by the Diaspora is a truly wonderful demonstration of compassion and concern, but unless coordinated and managed in a synchronised way, it could a) undermine whatever the current negotiating process is (if any??) and b) provide the Pirates with a realistic expectation of an increasing ransom figure, which is both counter-productive and dangerous for the Chandlers and other victims in the future.
There are a number of ways to get them released, I don't know why they are not being implemented and will probably never find out! I believe the Diaspora can and should play a significant part in their release and this should be enbraced and supported in conjunction with the current (concerning) process.
 
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I have recently looked at the approach of responders to a kidnapping and asked whether it is or should be the same as a hijacking. It was prompted by an underwriter saying that the maritime world should treat hijackings as kidnapping. This is an ethical minefield but the approach advocated by the negotiators and indeed we see it from some political commentators is based on what is called the utilitarianism. This is a moral theory that requires people to act for the common good....so dont pay ransoms because it encourages more. It is this approach which militates against public appeals which in this case would undoubtedly work. There would be compassion shown but it hasnt been asked for. But the problem is also that the pirates just sit back and watch a blue peter type fund grow. But public appeals make all Brits vulnerable. So not good say the utilitarianists.

Hijackings though of commercial ships are different. An owner has a choice he can choose to follow the moral way and pay a small amount but after his crew has sat there for x months or simply pay more but quicker. The fact he does pay without regard to others is actually encouraged by the regimes such as General Average by which the different stakeholders contribute to the ransom. In other words the idea is to do everything you can to get the ship moving at minimum cost to all. You do this becasue it makes commercial sense to do that.

Anyway just a theory.....
 
Having received intel from a source to be protected at all cost, I mailed both Miliband and Hague on 9th November 2009 with a negotiation strategy which would a) resulted in the Chandlers' release b) preserved HMGov's policy and c) preserved the Chandlers' assets. (I am an experienced and successful hostage negotiator/trainer)' This did not involve any public subscription or a use of force option. Hague replied; Miliband did not.
The fact that the RFA 'Wave Knight' was in a position, with relevant RN assets on board to mount an interruption operation prior to the Chandler's being placed onboard a cargo ship is a disgrace to the white/blue ensigns. It was the indecision of the RN Officer class so remote from the scene that caused this missed opportunity. (Lions led by donkeys?).
By the time RN command actually got their act together on this situation it was well too late to mount a credible rescue op.
Its probably a truth that 3 things useless on board a ship are an umbrella, a motorcycle and a naval officer.
Back to the point, it may not be in the interests of HMG to secure the release of the Chandler couple since their subsequent story will reveal the true failings of the RN; the sight of a blue flagged grey funnel line ship with 20 marines on board giving them hope; the catastrophic disappontment that the there was no response, no help, no communication; just a group of on-lookers/witnesses.
An opinion could be expressed that this should be a resignation issue for both Miliband and Ainsworth, but I couldn't possibly comment.
In the meantime, continued thoughts are with the Chandlers.
 
Having received intel from a source to be protected at all cost, I mailed both Miliband and Hague on 9th November 2009 with a negotiation strategy which would a) resulted in the Chandlers' release b) preserved HMGov's policy and c) preserved the Chandlers' assets. (I am an experienced and successful hostage negotiator/trainer)' This did not involve any public subscription or a use of force option. Hague replied; Miliband did not.
The fact that the RFA 'Wave Knight' was in a position, with relevant RN assets on board to mount an interruption operation prior to the Chandler's being placed onboard a cargo ship is a disgrace to the white/blue ensigns. It was the indecision of the RN Officer class so remote from the scene that caused this missed opportunity. (Lions led by donkeys?).
By the time RN command actually got their act together on this situation it was well too late to mount a credible rescue op.
Its probably a truth that 3 things useless on board a ship are an umbrella, a motorcycle and a naval officer.
Back to the point, it may not be in the interests of HMG to secure the release of the Chandler couple since their subsequent story will reveal the true failings of the RN; the sight of a blue flagged grey funnel line ship with 20 marines on board giving them hope; the catastrophic disappontment that the there was no response, no help, no communication; just a group of on-lookers/witnesses.
An opinion could be expressed that this should be a resignation issue for both Miliband and Ainsworth, but I couldn't possibly comment.
In the meantime, continued thoughts are with the Chandlers.

I cant comment on the first para save that unless you are in the room and know what is happening it is very difficult to second guess another persons negotiation. I personally think there needs to be a debate on this as I have alluded to above but that is another matter. Having said that your strategy must have been about paying money on some level and that is common to all the strategies if it wasnt it wouldnt have worked.. Otherwise I think your point about the RN is wrong on every level.

I suspect that the real story is what happened between the date of capture and the date that they were first sighted. But the WK is an RFA it may have a boarding party but they were facing a transfer of the couple from the yacht to the Kota Wajar in circumstances where the couple were at the complete mercy of the pirates and by that I mean those with them and indeed the thirt or so who were on the KW with another 23 hostages. Attacking a yacht is tough look at what the French did on the Tanit where the husband was killed by the rescuing force. You talk about RN assets which I accept inckudes the RM but the way you say it suggests that you dont really understand the distinction. This was an SF task and they were not (if the press are to be believed ) there. To send an RN / RM boarding party to mount a hostage rescue mission on the hoof in a situation when they would have been serioulsy outnumbered is stuff of hollywood. What iis an "interruption operation". The aim of that type of attack would have been to save the hostages. Someone decided that there was no prospect of success and actually noone was being threatened with imminent death. Good call in my view. Ask the wife on the Tanit how impressed she is about her govts decision to attack when they did.

Whether a botched raid is better than there present plight is moot but I have no doubt that if such a raid had been mounted and people killed the repercussions would have been huge not just for the Chandlers but also the hostages on teh Singapore vessel whose goivt would also have a say in what was to happen.
 
Fair point Acropolis regarding the rescue opportunity and as neither of us were there we can only base our opinions on our own experience and what info we have at hand. I'll PM you with some further background which may fill in a few gaps.
As for the Negs, yes of course money would change hands;
Who owns the Lynn Rival?
How much is it worth?
How much is it worth to a third party who would have a serious commercial interest in the Chandler's release?
are the initial questions on which the strategy may be based.
 
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