Advice to Service Leavers

Flashcar

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It is clear that some individuals are not getting the proper advice for whatever reason. Anyone leaving the forces to enter the CP industry needs to be aware that they need to plan their resettlement carefully.

To work in the UK and overseas where Uk law applies and with the majority of British risk management companies, a Security Industry Authority (SIA) licence is mandatory. To get this you need to have training qualifications and pass a Criminal Records Check.

Training must be a First Aid qual (HSE FAW or FPOS) and an accredited CP course. The SIA specify a minimum of 150 Guided Learning Hours. Be aware that many training providers deliver just enough to cover this and employers are going back to the pre-licence practise of rating training courses. First question will often be 'Have you got a CP licence?' and the second will be 'Who trained you?'

For working in hostile environments such as Iraq and Afghanistan, where carriage of firearms is necessary, you will generally need 5+ years military experience and 2 to 3 operational tours under your belt. Most reputable companies with such contracts will have induction/continuation training that will include firearms training.

UK and much of international CP work will not involve firearms. Corporate clients will demand more subtle skills and good communication and interpersonal skills.

If applying for an Enhanced Learning Credit, you need to apply for it at least three working weeks before the course start date and there is various documents to complete in respect of resettlement grants and allowances.

Time should be allowed at the end of the course (up to 2 weeks) for receiving your certificate and then applying for your licence (4-6 weeks).

The CP industry offers a range of employment opportunities and you are advised not to limit your thinking. It is suggested that you attend as many of the free seminars/briefing days as you can to learn more about the profession before committing yourself financially and to network. The Nemesis Group Ltd holds one throughout the year, every 6 weeks or so, as do several other companies.

Hope this advice helps.
 
Good advice

Good advice there but alow 6 weeks for your ELC claims etc to go through although a recent claim of mine took only two weeks. Catterick Resettlement are normally quite good.
 
Thanks for that i am in my last 3 months but have used £1850 of my resettlement grant and enhanced learning credits on a management diploma, so i am told i only have £250 left in the pot, so i will be paying for the CP course i choose out of my own pocket, unless someone knows how to access the last 3 years of ELC i havent claimed for.
 
You are entitled to three claims a year (of £1000 or £2000 depending on how long you have done. I am also going to use my last claim for a CP course but have used my second one for something else. My resettlement officer informed me i could not claim for my third one until the second one is finished.
This is not strictly true as i did some digging and on the ELCAS website ([URL="http://www.enhancedlearningcredits.com"][url]www.enhancedlearningcredits.com[/URL][/URL]) it says as long as you send off your evaluation form you can submit another claim whilst one is still ongoing.

Hope this helps. Which CP course are you planning on doing?
Regards.
 
It is clear that some individuals are not getting the proper advice for whatever reason. Anyone leaving the forces to enter the CP industry needs to be aware that they need to plan their resettlement carefully.

To work in the UK and overseas where Uk law applies and with the majority of British risk management companies, a Security Industry Authority (SIA) licence is mandatory. To get this you need to have training qualifications and pass a Criminal Records Check.

Training must be a First Aid qual (HSE FAW or FPOS) and an accredited CP course. The SIA specify a minimum of 150 Guided Learning Hours. Be aware that many training providers deliver just enough to cover this and employers are going back to the pre-licence practise of rating training courses. First question will often be 'Have you got a CP licence?' and the second will be 'Who trained you?'

For working in hostile environments such as Iraq and Afghanistan, where carriage of firearms is necessary, you will generally need 5+ years military experience and 2 to 3 operational tours under your belt. Most reputable companies with such contracts will have induction/continuation training that will include firearms training.

UK and much of international CP work will not involve firearms. Corporate clients will demand more subtle skills and good communication and interpersonal skills.

If applying for an Enhanced Learning Credit, you need to apply for it at least three working weeks before the course start date and there is various documents to complete in respect of resettlement grants and allowances.

Time should be allowed at the end of the course (up to 2 weeks) for receiving your certificate and then applying for your licence (4-6 weeks).

The CP industry offers a range of employment opportunities and you are advised not to limit your thinking. It is suggested that you attend as many of the free seminars/briefing days as you can to learn more about the profession before committing yourself financially and to network. The Nemesis Group Ltd holds one throughout the year, every 6 weeks or so, as do several other companies.

Hope this advice helps.

To work in the UK and overseas where Uk law applies


AG... Overseas..?
 
Hi im in the Royal Marines but i am due to leave in September time. I would like to get into CP after serving 4 years and completing my tour in afghanistan on Herrick 9. I was wondering if it is going to be difficult and will take a long time to get a start once completing a course and if it is worth while trying to get into in the first place?. thanks
 
JUst to add on the IRTG (resettlement grant), with all the forms filled out it can still take up to 3 weeks for the relevant parties to sign the forms and only then can you claim 80% of it up front.

If you have not received your Resettlement Briefing form you Individual Resettlement Officer you CANNOT ACCESS ANY FUNDING OR COURSES as part of the resettlement process.

MAKE SURE you get your resettlement interview (not the in-unit one) ASAP.

Also do not be fooled into accepting EARLY RELEASE until you have COMPLETED your CP course and CTW Workshop.

My RCMO unintentially nearly ballsed me up big time.

Ginge
 
Thanks for the advice and for clarifying a few things. My husband left 3 years ago and we are still chasing documents etc. All he left with was his medical form. Have e-mailed his resettlement office and left messages, no replies. We have requested copies of his discharge papers several times from Glasgow but it has never arrived. Have sent of for all his service records as a last resort but the wait really has been ridiculous! As a result of all this he has no idea of what he is entitled to or even has proof he was ever in the Army! His resettlement was poorly dealt with in my eyes, though this is obviously a reflection on a single case and not everyones experience.
He also thinks, that he should have been offerered a choice to drawn down funds on his pension upon leaving? Is that correct? the army pension site makes no sense to me! lol.
 
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"To work in the UK and overseas where Uk law applies"

Useful post Flashcar thanks, but I am just a little confused about the above statement..? perhaps you could help me out please by just briefing me as to which of the United Kingdom laws apply in another sovereign state..?

Thanks mate...

CD
 
"To work in the UK and overseas where Uk law applies"

Useful post Flashcar thanks, but I am just a little confused about the above statement..? perhaps you could help me out please by just briefing me as to which of the United Kingdom laws apply in another sovereign state..?

Thanks mate...

CD

Forget the above request Flashcar... I get the context now... Thanks mate... CD
 
Hi Carl,

Don't get to visit the forum too often, so apologies for not ackowledging you sooner. Although you obviously got the drift, I'll explain for the benefit of others.

Uk law can apply overseas in respect of FCO contracts / British Embassies etc. Those that served in the Armed Forces will be well aware of this in respect of British military bases.

It may be of interest that the British Standards Institute recently published BS8507 Pt 1 - Delivery of CP services within the Uk and overseas where UK law applies and Part 2 - Delivery of CP services eleswhere. Although not mandatory and guidelines as to what should be considered, it may be only a matter of time that compliance becomes a requirement of British Government and NGO contracts, like the vetting standard.
 
He also thinks, that he should have been offerered a choice to drawn down funds on his pension upon leaving? Is that correct? the army pension site makes no sense to me! lol.

Re pensions:- I don’t get involved but do have a basic understanding of the issues.

There have been some alleged SCAM's on these, involving cashing them in and being hit with mega tax bills, but you should consider you options here under QROPS Legislation. If you go down this route make certain whoever you deal with are here in the UK and legit and not set up in another country and therefore not approved by the various regulators which exist for your protection, over here.

My understanding is there are a few key reasons why this should be considered:-

You can get 25% of the fund (certain restrictions apply)

If you were forever emigrating significant tax savings

Potential for better growth than the army pension fund

More flexibility to draw this down.

The fund will disappear if you both were to pass away - there is no benefit to any children but the new fund could be set up to pass onto your kids.


Advisers will work on a commission and you are entitled to ask how much this is.

Hope that helps


James
 
You can get 25% of the fund (certain restrictions apply)

The above is Tax Free...and the concession on age is rising from 50 to 55 this year or next... I think..!

Potential for better growth than the army pension fund


Risk related funds can go down as well as up.


More flexibility to draw this down.

Private Pension providers are not enthusiastic to permit a draw down on funds unless it has a value of £100,000 or above.

 
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