Change in Police Driver Training for Level 1

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In my day ( not that long ago...... to do attend Police Level 1 Sv you had to have completed Basic & Advanced Driver Training.

I have heard that this has now changed to a Surveillance Driving Course of 4 weeks?

Does anyone know if this is correct??

Thanks
 
Again that 3 weeks depends on your force. In this day and age some people who dont know what they are talking about are re-writing courses as it "saves money", though the standard is lowered they can report back they have and will save x amount of £
 
it scotland its, basic, standard, advanced, persuit trained / surveillance training you can't skip any has to be in that order.

Most police drivers are standard drivers (which allows them to go with blue and twos on)

the surveillance training is still around 4 weeks
 
It's now level 2 police driver standard level 1 is the persuit element and not required for sv. Watch this space when the cuts bite I think it will return to IRV course standard.
 
Each force is different, you have to be an advanced driver class 1 or 2, in order to do the level 1 course, it's something to do with the Bhp of the cars we drive, we had some newbies waiting to go on their course who were only standard drivers (ie blues) who could only use our cars for transport, it is a big jump between standard , advance and sv driving :-)
 
don't understand some forces that remove the pursuit element for surveillance, having done basic, int, advanced (class 1), and surveillance driving, i can say that the advanced including pursuit has greatly increased my driving skills. Though i can understand, it makes the course cheaper and reduces abstractions. So i refer back to my previous post, these courses are changed most of the time ( and i say most not all ) who have no real practical experience of surveillance driving in the real world, not in a bmw 330 with police written on the front and back, where everyone will move out your way anyway!!
 
The irony of all these course is that on a Police driving/motorcycle course, you are taught to drive in a very particular way, for obvious reasons. You then shove a seasoned surveillance operative on a refresher driving/bike course, and he/she has to suddenly learn to drive/ride in completely the opposite way they do when they're operational. ie They're trying to hide themselves when out on the road, then suddenly you tell them to pass the course you have to put yourself across the road to maximise views, etc. Whether there are specialised suveillance refresher courses that test just the driving aspect, I don't know. Things may have changed.
 
Phil kind of agree with u in a way, but remember the old saying whilst not in view you should revert back to taught driving style. Another quote by a non understander . You mean whilst not in view of your subject or the 3 eye stood on the corner or the one parked on various corners doing cs!!!
 
Guys,

I think a certain amount of confusion is present with the course contents and the use of the skills taught.

There are various aspects to driving concerning surveillance - those as you rightly point out but also those involved in hoofing to plot up in advance and parallel. Advanced driving techniques will naturally come to the fore in the latter but as far as a standard follow is concerned then it remains a case of reverting to proper surveillance driving albeit with the increased level of observations to driving as taught on the course.

I agree, the pursuit part of the course is extremely relevant to surveillance driving and I too would be confused as to its non-inclusion.



Rich H
 
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..........whilst not in view you should revert back to taught driving style. Another quote by a non understander .
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Which may well put you back in view......lol

I do not profess to know anything about surveillance driving, I'm learning the hard way........which as some rightly point out, involves advanced driving at times, especially the advance party, or for "leapfrog" moves.
But I was up to speed with advanced driving of cars, bikes, vans, and saw how beaurocratic discisions impacted upon the surveillance guys.
 
ACPO guidelines and national courses require you to be advanced police driver. Some agencies do a zero to hero course as they are nicknamed where you do the standard course followed immediately by advanced course. You can't go on a national accredited course without that.

Regarding refresher courses, the instructors do appreciate the role and understand why we may lapse back into role related driving...
 
ACPO guidelines and national courses require you to be advanced police driver. Some agencies do a zero to hero course as they are nicknamed where you do the standard course followed immediately by advanced course. You can't go on a national accredited course without that.

Regarding refresher courses, the instructors do appreciate the role and understand why we may lapse back into role related driving...
 
Regarding refresher courses, the instructors do appreciate the role and understand why we may lapse back into role related driving...[/QUOTE]

Sort of agree, in my experience south of the border i've had some really appreciative instructors, more so on a bike than cars. In the one happy ship of national Scottish training then not a hope, you play the game then go back to "normality" which for me is not the "system of car control" i'm afraid! Shame really
 
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