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I agree with you. Companies cut costs at the expense of the people.
The rates plummet because people agree with that. On the other hand, make me laugh companies that offer 2-2.5 thousand $ per month work and the people who agree with that.
Either someone is desperate or a loser in life, or just stupid used by unprofessional companies with "professional" accounting department ...

£2500 a month tax free is better than £150 a fortnight on the dull, work is work, and with markets flooded people will
take it just to keep cash flow going, and a lot of companies who paid the good money a few years ago do not now exists
as the times have changed out there.
 
If they're employing polish doorman, then they're employing polish doorman/bouncers. This has nothing to do with me, I am just stating a fact and a very alarming one at that. I've just looked on their website and it says "Polish are looked upon favourably" I think that says it all, don't you? I read a post on here somewhere that they were abseiling off the bridge with weapons, wtf is that all about?

Anyway, I have nothing against the polish here in Britain, they deliver my pizzas/kebabs twice as fast as the lazy Brits.....

quotes "Therefor we are interested to employ operator only for a fix employment (no "contractor") out of the European Union preferred Belgium, France and Poland. "
Such a company policy, they prefer to pay less for a Belgian or a Pole. "Experts" you can find in each national group.
At the famous motion movie--- IBS from what I know there are for example Germany gays...
 
"Anyway, I have nothing against the polish here in Britain, they deliver my pizzas/kebabs twice as fast as the lazy Brits....."
Man, It looks like you have a big issue with Poles... It's very sad, but truth is that it is not our fault that the companies are trying to cut the costs... Most of your comments is like that: I'm not going to work for ... pounds or I wouldn't take the offer. Well, there always will be someone who will accept it. If not Polish, then Indonesian or Georgian... For people living in those countries this is a lot of money and it is not a shame to take it. Even if it means quick pizza delivery ;)
Anyway we are the victims of the success of our business. Too many companies pop out and everyone wants to make some money. Oh, and one more thing. Please do not think that if we are cheaper means that we are worst security guards. Do not throw us all into one bag... And yes, I'm Polish.
Regards guys.
 
It's polish and German in ibs video. Not one Brit would allow or be involved in that crap.... Speaks volumes.

MDM, your underlying racial preconceptions break through here. I've worked on doors for over a year and a half now, with a variety of different companies and crews. Some of those were British. Some of those were Polish. Some of those were other nationalities. To me, it doesn't matter what their race is, as long as they can do the job properly, they're professional, and I can trust them to watch my back.

Just because someone's Polish or non-British, doesn't mean that they're terrible, and because someone's British, that they're the best thing since sliced bread and God's gift to earth. I've worked with some very, very great non-British doormen, as well as those that are bad. At the same time, I've worked with a lot of bad British doormen, and a few good ones. I know which ones I would rather work with! The professional ones that do their job & I can trust to watch my back, whether or not they were born in the UK!

Race doesn't mean that someone's good or not!

And by the way, do you know for an absolute FACT that not one single British MARSEC Operative wouldn't be involved? You can't state that!
 
Oh BUT I can state that (that, not one British guy is involved, oh but I can!)....

Why? Because you know everything about everything, right?

The Brits are the best at everything and everyone else is a trained monkey, is that so. I don't know what bitter and twisted fantasy world you live in but you are one racist mofo.

I have worked with many nationalities over 30 odd years and guess who are the ones we hear whining about everything? You got it, the Brits. So, if I were to do as you do and base an opinion of Brits on the behavior of complete assholes, then I guess that would mean that Brits are all mentally retarded whining cowards, right?

......What from, some phillipino dry bumming you.

So, all Filipinos are faggots now? What fcuking planet are you living on?

....In 18 months time every company will be employing foreign, useless nationals to do the role.........

So now we have gone from abusing a couple nationalities to saying that anyone who's not a Brit is useless.

My guess is that you are either a Chairborne Ranger or someone who's life has been one long series of failures, one after another and blames their own inadequacies and ineptitudes on Johnny Foreigner. Either way, you are full of shit.
 
Oh BUT I can state that (that, not one British guy is involved, oh but I can!)
You are correct, in that there is no English being spoken in the video. It's still possible that there is a British Operative in the group, speaking another language. What you CAN'T say, and what I asked, is that NOT ONE SINGLE British MARSEC Operative would be involved in that sort of activity, or ever allow it to be filmed, regardless of whether it is posted on YouTube or not!

Why is it, that every polish guy always reverts back to "door security/bouncers" - never, oh when we was in Iraq/afghan.
Apart from the fact that the second part of your sentence makes absolutely ZERO sense, I shall endeavour to answer the first; Maybe they return to Doors because it is more stable work? Maybe they return to it because of twats who racially abuse them and think of them as incompetent? They might have to put up with being shot at as an occupational hazard, but not that!

It's always, oh I've worked with great polish guys on the doors, event security. That says it all to me.
That's because I, like most people, have no MARSEC Experience (Or limited), and our experience of individuals from Europe who work in the Security Industry is through Door Work.

Maritime security is the most overrated job in the world, saturated with polish bouncers who are more interested in have Gucci/alley pictures with fairground rifles.
Maybe you should consider a career change then? There may be some Shelf-Stacker Positions open at Aldi or Lidl for you (Y)



Watch your back??? What on the bridge? What from, some phillipino dry bumming you.
Yes, watch your back. I don’t profess to be an expert in MARSEC Ops, but isn’t the general point that you work as a TEAM? Not just a group of Lone Rangers with a stack of Lollipops and Guns? I thought that MARSEC Operatives would watch each other’s back, instead of not care if anything happens.

Yes, on the bridge. In the example, the Operatives have given the Crew their Firearms, meaning that a disgruntled Crew or Crew member/s could take over the ship for their own purposes. In addition, the operatives are now unarmed, and the Crew-members armed. If your remit says “One Operative constantly on the Bridgeâ€, then surely that’s what you do, whether you’re sailing in the Mediterranean or rounding the Horn of Africa!

If a Philippine Crew Member wants to get amorous with you, that is a decision to be made by two consenting adults, and you should be appreciative!. Remember to use protection!


Get a grip! Any monkey can do this job and do you know why that's another FACT! Because everybody is getting the boot for monkeys to do it.
So is that why you do MARSEC Work? It’s a good thing that you’re not a trainer! Do you guard the Rubber rings, or is that a bit too challenging?

Unfortunately, we are still quite a few decades away from training monkeys to use firearms responsibly, and guard a vessel from attack. We might need to get whoever taught you involved, they clearly worked miracles with you!

Again, I have no MARSEC Experience, but I don’t think that it’s an easy job. If you do, you’re clearly highly-skilled, and should set your sights for bigger and better things (!)

In 18 months time every company will be employing foreign, useless nationals to do the role and that includes "polish steroids abusing" doormen.
If companies choose to do that, that is their choice. They are not required by any laws to hire only “British†MARSEC Operatives. They have the freedom to hire whomever they what, whatever nationality they want. If this offends you, you should either switch to a different company, or start your own. You could hire British-only MARSEC Operatives, to show the world how “Totally brilliant†you are (Although that would be totally racist, and you may find yourself in front of a court and several employment tribunals).

I’ll even hire you for a job; protecting my model floaty-boaty in the middle of a pond. Shouldn’t be too tough for you, with your superior abilities! I’ll even provide a luncheon of Ginger Beer and Cucumber Sandwiches!

So, are you saying that either all Polish Doormen use (& Subsequently abuse) Steroids, or that IBS Hamburg and other companies will put, in their recruitment sections in 18-months’ time;
“Please only apply if you meet the following criteria;
1. You are Polish
2. You are a Steroid-User (Extra Points for abusers)
3. Yo are a Doormanâ€

???

Can’t really see it, can you?
 
I am guilty of watching this awful thread develop, it smells of bitterness with a large splash of vindictiveness. It seems to me that multimillion dollar racist has an axe to grind with IBS. During my 6 years contracting on a variety of vessels, I worked with Germans Poles Estonians French and Ukranians - non are better or worse than the other, humans tend to drop bollocks regardless of birth place. I am British, and I am not a bigot, I like things to be done properly and I dont like short cuts or bullshitters, a healthy professional aptitude I think and acceptable to most, wouldn't you agree. As for the video, well yeah, shoddy and stupid for filming it, but so ****ing what! I fail to see any real crimes being commited, ok the supervision was piss poor and blah blah blah, it's boring really. No really it is very ****ing boring. However, I would love to know why multimillion dollar racist is so busy pushing the issue, what is behind this need to push a non issue like this. I have an good buddy in IBS, he has been with them for nearly 3 years, he is a brit, he is also a tight lipped bastard that wont be dragged into public debate but he did state that the company isn't a cowboy operation and doesn't employ bouncers Polish or otherwise, the gaffer pays on time everytime and demands high standards, ocassionally employees (not contractors) have a problem with that. He wouldnt even offer me details about multimilliondollarracist despite me badgering him, i quote - "to do so would be poor form" - I know him well enough not to test his integrity.

Multimilliondollarman is stirring it up and drawing attention to himself , that could bite you on the ass , marsec is very small , I now work contractually to many marsec firms , dealing with logistics , agents and recruiting. You sound like a soured apple , The MDs that i meet and greet would probably rather employ a polish bouncer than someone that does dirty laundry in this manner. My Sincere advise , drop it mate , it is not big and it is not clever , besides, only tiresome fools flog dead horses. Furthermore, to protect my own investments and interests I adopted this new cp world ID, much the in the same way as multimilliondollarracist is hiding behind his ID, but my motivations are different. You know, sod integrity, I might ply my mate with a bottle of single malt I know he is a collector, I suspect it would shine a different light on the matter.
 
Racist,

Someone call my name?

You missed the fun. A dickhead (milliondollarman) decided to announce in a way that would not be out of place at a Klan meeting that, except for the Brits, everyone else in the world was a bunch of incompetent monkeys...... His posts have gone away
 
18 months ago I rang up the office after I had sent my cv in. The German guy/owner was really rude and abrupt which put me off straight away. However, he asked me my salary expectations and he became even more abrupt. They wanted me to come to hamburg for an interview (2 days inc travel) then back again for a range day, 2 weeks later (2 days inc travel). Then come back AGAIN a week later to do a full week in the office, doing range days and company policies. All this at my own expense. I kindly refused. I then see this video on here and others slating the company. I had a lucky escape
 
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You missed the fun. A dickhead (milliondollarman) decided to announce in a way that would not be out of place at a Klan meeting that, except for the Brits, everyone else in the world was a bunch of incompetent monkeys...... His posts have gone away

Wish I could have seen it, bet he had a military police background. They always know what is best for each nationality, and if their country falls under NATO then no matter what country it is their country is always the best at everything. Good example, go the the NATO base Rammstein or the one in Qatar. All those NATO member MP's have their own assignments that they fail at every day in some way or another because they are busy trying to tell their NATO MP counter part how to do their job.
 
Last transit I had two polish ex SF guys on with me.... After the 3rd day they were in clip ffs. Admin went down hill, couldn't get them out their beds. Nice kids but fck me they were poor. They was getting £100 a day and happy
 
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