SURVEILLANCE detection
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Probably not. Even when it does occur, they often hugely exaggerate what they really have been involved in and/ or confuse their past mil experience with inclusion of their commercial company operations.
ie. Gov CP ops in the form of diplomats and then clearly stating that their company have conducted such roles insofar as a contract.
Rich H
armorofgods
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USSS vs DS Responsibilities
Respectfully, I submit that you are incorrect about the structure and charge of the USSS and the DS. Not interested in starting a debate on the issue but I know what I am talking about in this area. In any case, the DS defers to the Secret Service.
Your posts are always informative and enjoyable to read.
P.S. I hope to training in Israel soon.
Respectfully, I submit that you are incorrect about the structure and charge of the USSS and the DS. Not interested in starting a debate on the issue but I know what I am talking about in this area. In any case, the DS defers to the Secret Service.
Your posts are always informative and enjoyable to read.
P.S. I hope to training in Israel soon.
armored-vehicles
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Routine can be very dangerous or fatal
Only by being aware of potential dangers before and during each journey, can you reduce the latent risks.
Only by being aware of potential dangers before and during each journey, can you reduce the latent risks.
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...and when something has been identified a decision should be made soon after as to what course of action should be undertaken.
Rich H
Rich H
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But this is not always immediately possible due to current activity and available assets/ logistics...
Rich H
TheTrainingWing
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I have found this thread very interesting, Thank you all for the contributions. I am not in the field but enjoy reading posts by qualified individuals.
KingLeonidas
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I'm also coming onto this thread very late ... just stumbled on it while looking around. Always keep in mind - I'm still far down on the totem pole compared to some extremely experienced people here.
I think the real battle you face with CS is economics. That's why they call economics the "dismal science". It all boils down to resources and money. Good CS takes time to do well - and you need experienced people who can pay painstaking attention to details. These people cost money. So, in the end the managers who run everything just don't want to spend the pounds (or dollars) it takes to do the job right. Very unfortunate. And we live in a world where everybody wants "Results Now" ... or at the latest by breakfast time tomorrow. There's no time to do good work.
So if you take the experienced CS operators out of the equation - for economic reasons - where does that leave you? The answer is almost astonishing. In principle, if computers could watch the whole world, they could follow everybody's patterns of movements. Of course, this is exactly the idea behind the TV show in America called "Person Of Interest" where the USA has built a giant security computer that watches everyone. But it's rapidly becoming reality. America is spending huge dollars to construct a special facility in Utah that does essentially the same thing. And to be honest, in many ways the UK is even more suitable for such a project. That's because your own country is watched by some many CCTV systems everywhere. If they were all networked, and a central computer could read faces, number plates, and mobile phone records - imagine where that could all lead. I bet that there are people in London who have given that idea a lot of thought.
Anyway ... the irony is that the "old school" skills are still badly needed. Take a look at the mess in Syria today. If you think about it, this is the best chance that Al Qaeda has ever had - to get their hands on a real weapon of mass destruction. All they need to do is to pull off a "disappearing trick". A little bit of magic. You would think that places like MI5 and MI6 would be getting on the phone and calling everyone on this section of the forum, and giving them a paying job for the next few months.
Wouldn't you???
HAHAHA!
KL
I think the real battle you face with CS is economics. That's why they call economics the "dismal science". It all boils down to resources and money. Good CS takes time to do well - and you need experienced people who can pay painstaking attention to details. These people cost money. So, in the end the managers who run everything just don't want to spend the pounds (or dollars) it takes to do the job right. Very unfortunate. And we live in a world where everybody wants "Results Now" ... or at the latest by breakfast time tomorrow. There's no time to do good work.
So if you take the experienced CS operators out of the equation - for economic reasons - where does that leave you? The answer is almost astonishing. In principle, if computers could watch the whole world, they could follow everybody's patterns of movements. Of course, this is exactly the idea behind the TV show in America called "Person Of Interest" where the USA has built a giant security computer that watches everyone. But it's rapidly becoming reality. America is spending huge dollars to construct a special facility in Utah that does essentially the same thing. And to be honest, in many ways the UK is even more suitable for such a project. That's because your own country is watched by some many CCTV systems everywhere. If they were all networked, and a central computer could read faces, number plates, and mobile phone records - imagine where that could all lead. I bet that there are people in London who have given that idea a lot of thought.
Anyway ... the irony is that the "old school" skills are still badly needed. Take a look at the mess in Syria today. If you think about it, this is the best chance that Al Qaeda has ever had - to get their hands on a real weapon of mass destruction. All they need to do is to pull off a "disappearing trick". A little bit of magic. You would think that places like MI5 and MI6 would be getting on the phone and calling everyone on this section of the forum, and giving them a paying job for the next few months.
Wouldn't you???
HAHAHA!
KL
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Fair one.
I was thinking of the one who knows f@ck all and talks bollocks, Mr A grade Walt.
Hopefully he has been banned or removed to prevent spreading the total load of shite he talks and let those who want to interact and learn on a professional level.
KingLeonidas
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"which one?"
HAHA! Not sure if any of those jabs were aimed at me ... but be aware that I can parry and hit back
regarding my earlier remarks ...
1. Here is a link showing integration of UAV's and software - these things don't just take photo's anymore. They recognize, analyze and track target movements on the ground. They are capable of putting together the "big picture" of where a surveillance target is coming from, where it is going, and what its likely intentions are. CS is rapidly shifting to the brains of computer systems.
Prototype UAV tested at Northern Edge
2. And here is the link to the giant computer system in the US. Do you think that they will just spell out what this system will do? It has enough capacity to absorb all the info on the entire global internet, PLUS whatever else they throw into it.
New NSA data center breaks ground on construction -- GCN
I don't think this means that old-fashioned CS on the street is dead. But it does mean that the world is changing faster than any of us would like to believe.
KL
HAHA! Not sure if any of those jabs were aimed at me ... but be aware that I can parry and hit back
regarding my earlier remarks ...
1. Here is a link showing integration of UAV's and software - these things don't just take photo's anymore. They recognize, analyze and track target movements on the ground. They are capable of putting together the "big picture" of where a surveillance target is coming from, where it is going, and what its likely intentions are. CS is rapidly shifting to the brains of computer systems.
Prototype UAV tested at Northern Edge
2. And here is the link to the giant computer system in the US. Do you think that they will just spell out what this system will do? It has enough capacity to absorb all the info on the entire global internet, PLUS whatever else they throw into it.
New NSA data center breaks ground on construction -- GCN
I don't think this means that old-fashioned CS on the street is dead. But it does mean that the world is changing faster than any of us would like to believe.
KL
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UK Police have just been given 'green light' to deploy UAV's which could be interesting. CAA Legislation will be probably be interpreted so that only Police Aviation Service will be able to use them as they pretty well have to follow same standards of practise on record keeping, maintenance etc, as any other aircraft used professionally.
Chances of 'em being deployed by your local nick or PCSO? Buggerall after the cockups they've made with them so far. (Hopefully)
They will also, 'possibly' hire out the use of UAV's to Local Authorities, Utilities etc, as a revenue stream, and effectively kill their private operation for commercial use. (In other words, don't be in a hurry to buy one.)
As for public sector surveillance, monitoring of email, phones, and any form of electronic communication by HMG and others, i'm afraid it's a fact of life, deal with it.
Fortunately, not to the degree of 'Person of Interest', although it's within the realms of possibility. Just wait a while.
Chances of 'em being deployed by your local nick or PCSO? Buggerall after the cockups they've made with them so far. (Hopefully)
They will also, 'possibly' hire out the use of UAV's to Local Authorities, Utilities etc, as a revenue stream, and effectively kill their private operation for commercial use. (In other words, don't be in a hurry to buy one.)
As for public sector surveillance, monitoring of email, phones, and any form of electronic communication by HMG and others, i'm afraid it's a fact of life, deal with it.
Fortunately, not to the degree of 'Person of Interest', although it's within the realms of possibility. Just wait a while.