Symbiotic Training

your right enji 1986 a lot has happened in between those years more hostile environment stuff has gone on people have a better understanding of tactics and risk and threat assessments (well maybe some do). Im not slagging any provider off but if it comes down to how much money you have in your pocket and what your after is a SIA CP licence and no CP training provider in the UK can give you a full bore hostile environment package anyway so on top of anything you might have to pay the "Big Boys" for a training package that will give you a CP licence which in effect is driven by SIA guidlines for what needs to be in a training package
if you want Hostile environment you will have to pay seperately for that anyway. but pound for pound what symbiotic deliver out wieghs what you pay. If you want to trot out to or anyone else want to choose a training provider because thaey have been going for 20 years (and why wouldnt they be going for 20 years one of the biggest suppliers of students is the MOD who foot the bill that affiliation is a licence to print money). but all im saying is if you want cost effective realistic training at realistic affordable prices that will give you the same qualification at the end of the day as any other well known or long standing training provider whose training is as under as much scrutiny from the SIA as any other then why not use symbiotic? the guys who do the weapons at symbiotic amongst other things are ex SO19 and ex French specail forces you cant get on the list of SIA approved training providers unless you are one. Like i say its not rocket science if you want to go and spend £4000/£5000 on an SIA approved CP course good luck to ya but if you want to get a few mates together and do an SIA approved course for £1000 for each person i know where my money would be going. At the end of the day when you rack up to Kabul working for Aegis or Armorgroup what anorak is gonna be asking what company did you do your CP training with? unless your a complete plum and if your a plum hopefully you aint getting past the interview stage for those companies (hopefully although i have met a few).
 
Well here's one for you since you insist on singing their praises: There are no SIA approved training companies. The SIA do not approve training companies. When a fundamental claim they and you make is false, how much credibility can you and they have? One or both of you is lieing OR does not understand what the SIA does. For a training provider, that is a pretty big deal.

By the way, what other CP courses have you done to know theirs, indeed ANY CP course is amazing?
 
Look guys aint nothing in it for me if you aint done a CP course and your looking for a training provider you got lots of ways to go either you got £4000/£5000 to spunk and thats cool or you aint and to answer another question VIP's dont just get out of Cars in the civilian world they get out Helicopters at heliports and big posh boats out of mariners (yeah they really do). and if you have paid £4000 or £5000 for you CP course and you aint covered that aspect of it then i reckon i got an advantage with my training then didnt i.
 
You just keep spurting the same crap over and over again. You are here banging on about them for what reason? Because you are a stooge for them? Times are lean? Maybe that is why they are offering training behind the curtain for £800? Oh yeah. Drum up a little business. Quality costs.

Average person does not come on a forum to blow smoke up the arse of a training provider in the same inane manner over and over again; especially not one who has so much experience. What need or motivation would there be?
 
At scab the SIA have to audit all security training providers the training provider has to account in detail that each student has covered the minimum what is 140/150hrs of CP training so that the SIA can issue the licence to the student no more than 10.1 students to every qualified trainor blah blah blah the reason i know this as when i was having my training in july they had an SIA audit hence now i have an SIA licence in my back burner.
 
look i aint on their sight if it says £800 quid then thats what is how do i know i paid £2000 cos i booked through get licenced well it was £1999.99
before anyone else calls me a whatever but i tell you what. you wanna pay £4000/£5000 crack on guys i couldnt give a monkies i got my Licence.
 
Nope. The SIA have no role in overseeing training. That is down to awarding bodies. Otherwise please fell free to point us to any official documentation which amended the PSIA2001 to include training governance within their remit. Or indeed any mention of this on their website.

10.1 students to every 'trainor' ...are you serious?

The only informal RECOMMENDATION is a 12 to 1 student-instructor ratio. The only official limit revolves around PI training and that is not a part of a CP course yet.

You claim to know so much yet fluff your explanations of everything and still do not explain why you have such an interest in singing their praises.

It is so obvious now you are either a stooge or desperate hanger on.
 
used to work for them, wouldn't now touch them with a ten foot pool. Corner cutting cowboys.
HE training is a day with airsofts where the ownwer of the company comes in all decked out in camo and webbing and sprays everyone with a souped up MP5 airsoft - real training my ar*e.
 
How could i get anything out of this i dont even know you lot and you aint booking anything through me are ya!! theres an alternative guys its a free market and a free world if you aint done a CP course its your freedom of choice and your own free will to do whatever you like just saying didnt cost me £4000/£5000 for my licence (which is another £245) now you can except that fact or not and i aint defending nobody just telling you guys how much my course cost cos somebody at the begining of all this asked about symbiotic then i dont know who out there if they are CP trained or not started a big thing end of the day i got my qualification and my licence so im not bothered if you take my advice or not.
 
Everyone's opinion of a training provider is going to be different to the other according to that person's experiences.

In my eyes, they all (certainly the UK based one's) all sing off the same unfit for purpose song sheet. It's down to choosing the best from a bad bunch and then doing 1 or 2 more courses elsewhere.



Rich H
 
How could i get anything out of this i dont even know you lot and you aint booking anything through me are ya!! theres an alternative guys its a free market and a free world if you aint done a CP course its your freedom of choice and your own free will to do whatever you like just saying didnt cost me £4000/£5000 for my licence (which is another £245) now you can except that fact or not and i aint defending nobody just telling you guys how much my course cost cos somebody at the begining of all this asked about symbiotic then i dont know who out there if they are CP trained or not started a big thing end of the day i got my qualification and my licence so im not bothered if you take my advice or not.

There you are again with the price thing. Are you a real human or a sales-bot? Visioneer - PLEASE do something about this idiot. If this is not a blatant shot at free advertising I don't know what is.
 
Guys you know what the SIA guidelines are for CP they are quite basic really driving isnt even part of what SIA require as part of passing nor weapons if you want HE that will always be seperate its about having money to burn or not yeah it would be lovely to do an all singng all dancin how much does that cost? probably more money than ive got to burn after SSO STCW95 Maritime firearms flights accomodation ENG1 medical car hire if you dont have the cash you can still get qualified for me got me trained to meet SIA requirments i passed my exam i got my licence its personal choice at the end of the day for every negative there will always be a positive its easy for me to say yeah do the course you will learn everything you need to know to get your CP licence does it turn you into a Hostile environment specailist no it doesnt i didnt say it did does it give you your CP licence yes it does and you know you cant just ruck up as a civvy and do hostile anyway you need minimum 5 years military with references anyway so hostile is something completely different. Its just you now need an SIA CP licence even with military background. If there are companies out there taking guys into Hostile environments with just a CP licence i dont know who they are
 
Scab if you got your licence then good on ya if you have i dont care really what you paid for it or who you did your training with but the very first question someone was asking about symbiotic about an £800 course (oh no talking about money again) just tellin the bloke who asked the question what ive just done now on tuesday i have a Maritime firearms competency course with some company in sherborne dorset .22 going with them cos i aint got time to go to euro tactical in france as im supposed to be working Marsec in september aint got the paperwork to hand right now but ive heard good things and bad things but i had a choice well not really as i got to fly back to Helsinki so im trying to cram everything in but if anyone knows what they are called im sure they will tell me because its about personal experience we have good ones and bad ones for me personally i had a good one but its choice no?
 
No you are not, you are inanely bleating on singing praises and pointing out commercial points for a company you claim to just have trained with. Did you fall in love with them or something? I think every single post you put here should be deleted. You clearly joined for no other reason than to up their profile.
 
anyway other courses Imsa marsec SSO just finished that one anyone have experiences with them? valid question REd ensign STCW95 doing that one on the 27th any info would be helpful and the firearms comptetency in sherborne dorset wouldnt mind the heads up on that
 
rich H best comment so far no UK company will prepair you for HE just work around england its impossible no ranges anymore everything is add ons
 
IMSA great guys with real anti piracy experience cost of the course pretty much the same as everywhere else best probably go to the one closest to where you live.
 
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