Personal Injury Surveillance

In the 12 months that i did this sort of work, i didnt see a single case where the subject involved actually had the life changing injuries that they were claiming... Makes you think doesnt it, that there are people out there that actually dont tell the truth.
Like the others say though, tell your friend not to worry im sure she will get what compensation she deserves
safa
 
Can I ask why you Friend would be upset by her children being in the footage.?
Were the children naked or in state of undress?
Or is your Friend looking for an excuse for the footage to not be used.
These rules are put in place to protect kids.Not to be used to defend there parents.
 
batfink,

Re: Your point about fimiming through windows.

There is actually a stated case relating to this exact circumstance, which allows for such evidence to be admitted as evidence. You may find this helpful:

Joyce Elliot v Rhondda Cynon Taff County Borough Council – Reliance upon video surveillance evidence

The Claimant claimed in excess of £140,000 special damages following a tripping accident on 7th September 2000. Medical evidence had been disclosed on behalf of the Claimant to the effect that she would be unable to continue in her employment as it involved long periods of standing. The Claimant also had difficulties climbing stairs and was confined to the downstairs of her property. The Claimant was made redundant not long after her accident and there was a considerable past and future loss of earnings claim. A medical report was obtained from Mr Pemberton, Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon, on behalf of the Council, whose opinion and prognosis was worse than that of the Claimant’s medical expert and therefore the Council did not seek to rely on his report.

Shortly prior to trial video surveillance evidence was obtained showing the Claimant carrying out extensive decorating and notably climbing step ladders in an upstairs room. The video was shot through the windows. A copy of the video was sent to Mr Pemberton who considered that the level of mobility and function shown in the video was in excess of that complained of upon examination. Mr Pemberton was of the view that the Claimant could return to sedentary employment.

An immediate application was issued to rely on the video evidence and the reports of Mr Pemberton. The claimant opposed the application on the grounds that the video was an invasion of the Claimant’s privacy and an infringement of Article 8(1) Human Rights Act in that the Claimant was shown inside her home.

His Honour Judge Hugh Jones allowed both limbs of the Council’s application. In allowing the video surveillance evidence the Judge found that at no time did the person following the Claimant leave the public highway and did not attempt to film the Claimant in an embarrassing or compromising situation. The Claimant had been filmed in daylight hours through both upstairs and downstairs windows. The Judge accepted that there had been a breach of privacy but that it was minimal. The Judge also took into account the discrepancy in what the Claimant alleged she could and could not do and that actually shown in the video.

Costs of the application were also awarded against the Claimant.

Whilst some Claimant solicitors are still willing to run the breach of human rights argument when confronted with damaging surveillance evidence, it is clear that the Courts are more willing to carry out a balancing act and to consider the public interest in ensuring a full and proper trial takes place when considering whether to permit such surveillance evidence.

Good Luck.

Gavin Robertson

Cheers mate will have to get the boys in suits to change policy and get my head in caselaw (again shudder):D
 
I am responding to the lady's story about surveillance, I am going through the same thing only that I have been tortured, 24hr surveillance every day for over 16months i have suffered verbal abuse, intimidation on the road, wire tapping my phone, they approached my daughter to get to me and one thing I have learned no one cares, I have been the police, spoke to my solicitor at the time, wrote to every ombudsman I could think of, Acast, citiziens advice, it seems that we the victims of an injury have to go through the harrassment and nearly have a break down because of it and YET NO ONE STILL CARES because they think we will get a pay out in the end so that means it is ok. only in my case they settled out of court so you could say I won, but even now the case is settled they are still surveillanceing me because they want there money back and yet NO ONE CARES what are innocent law abiding people surpposed to do. why do we have no rights, and the person who responded to the lady saying they are just looking for another claim, how sad you are when there are genuine people who have been in a accident through no fault of there own, and your judging other people buy your own standards.
 
Hello nice first post

If you have been under surveillance 24hours a day for the last 16 months your claim must be massive !!!!!!

Why do I sense a troll here
 
THE LADY WHO SAID NICE FIRST POST- no you would think that wouldnt you, due to what I have been through, and still going through, maybe it would of been but I still continue to work, it is just I work for a company who are ruthless, and dont like to lose. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME ON WHO TO TURN TOO TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
 
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The lady under surveillance, all I can say to you is, try not let it have the same effects to your health as it has had on me, it can take its toll on your relationship and really make you feel depressed especially when people who are close think you are being paranoid, I took a lot of my feelings out on my daughter and partner, so try and not let them see the effects it may of had on you if any GOOD LUCK.
 
Of course, a decent long-term target will of course take his SV team to the beach once a week in summer, and home footie games with the pub afterward in winter. Knightsbridge casinos are a bit much unless the expenses get turned round quickly, but shortly after the first of the month was always nice.

Thank you, thank you, Messrs. X, X, X and X, and so many others over the years.
 
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Hi D,
I hope this advice helps but I have heard from someone that McKeowns Solicitors UK can maybe help you with your situation. They have various branches around the country called: McKeowns Solicitors Milton Keynes, McKeowns Solicitiors Northern Ireland and McKeowns Solicitors St. Albans.
 
Hi D,
I hope this advice helps but I have heard from someone that McKeowns Solicitors UK can maybe help you with your situation. They have various branches around the country called: McKeowns Solicitors Milton Keynes, McKeowns Solicitiors Northern Ireland and McKeowns Solicitors St. Albans.

Sleepy, who do you work for?????
 
Hi D,
I hope this advice helps but I have heard from someone that McKeowns Solicitors UK can maybe help you with your situation. They have various branches around the country called: McKeowns Solicitors Milton Keynes, McKeowns Solicitiors Northern Ireland and McKeowns Solicitors St. Albans.


What help could these Solicitors offer? From the information in this thread it seems to be a very standard job. Personal injury claim, some day to day observations in public areas. The insurance company is not doing anything wrong, nor the surveillance team and if the subject is genuine the she isn't doing anything wrong either.

It sounds like she has been shown the video evidence and has been shocked that she has been followed, perhaps made her feel a bit vulnerable and angry. This reaction is pretty common and goes hand in hand with covert surveillance, the subjects never really going to be happy with it.


Paul
 
thredderz

Mind I wouldn't mind being on the team that are doing him raking it in springs to mind feck a 16 month task they must know when he shits and when he gets his oats by the spring in his step :p


16 month task, 24 hrs a day !! who's the subject - Slab Murphy ??

imagine the obs log -

August: No change
 
Just to add what Gavin Robertson stated about surveillance being allowed through the windows - my understanding of RIPA / Human Rights Act is that surveillance is not intrusive if you can see it from a public place.
Part II of RIPA actually states (surveillance) is carried out without that device being present on the premises or in the vehicle,
is not intrusive unless the device is such that it consistently provides information of the same quality and detail as might be expected to be obtained from a device actually present on the premises or in the vehicle.
In other words, you can film into a car or house from the street, providing you don't have the Hubble tesescope in your OP!
Hope this is of some help
 
hey technical protection, what a load of b"""llocks, how is the surveillance team "harrassing" the subject and why should they be sacked? the client has asked the team to covertly follow and film the subject's activity so that any fraudulant activity can be brought before the court. first of all when a P.I claim is started the subject would have said what she/he can or cant do...for example carrying shopping or children. bending down. in an affidavit, which is sent to the insurance company to assess the damage and the level of payout if there is....so if the insurance company have any doubts then surveillance will be carried out..the result in the end can elliminate the fraudulant claims from the real ones....thus in the end saving the rest of us extra money on our insurance premiums!!
 
"slab murphy" well there's a name....use to transport fuel from the south to the north as well as other things...they were the days when the hedge beaters and dogs would come out....good memories
 
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