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Hi all,

Im posting here for some advice and experience.

I am currently working within the police but due to the economic circustances i am leaving the force and I have landed myself a job within G4S in their CVIT side of the business.

I am just wondering what i should be looking to expect when within the job an how varying the role can be day to day?

Regards
 
Mate,

I am surprised as the basic details should be clear on your job description, otherwise check the G4S website as the initial role & responsibilities are advertised... have seen it.

Please be careful of asking sensitive questions in a open forum as I am sure you must heard armed robberies in concerned field. Anyone could be reading or posting on an open forum.

Good luck

DH..
 
Well i have an idea from the job description of what im going to be doing but i was just after general experience from other CVIT officers.

I am fully aware of operational information bein posted on public forums and i am not asking for that to be done just peoples experience and opinion within the job.
 
Policeprospect, got a question for you mate? Why are you leaving the police to do CVIT? It's your decision to answer or not. It's none of our business actually but since you brought it up.Economic Circumstances? If your telling me a starting CVIT makes more than a entry level copper I would be shocked.

Best Regards

Tapmaster
 
tapmaster:

Im bassed in comms not on the beat. A few of my good friends and colleagues have recently been let go due to current climate and the budget cuts and there are further service reviews of my branch to come.

Im making the decision to take a permanent job with the same entry level pay that i get within the police for better hours and more time at home with my family.

I currently work a 6 days on 4 off pattern and within my 6 day tour of duty i can do earlies, afternoons and night shifts within the 6 days so it takes its toll.

Also and unfortunately from my position i can see how things are at present and how they are going to go and im sad to say its not good news for the police and workers within my sector at this time *thanks to the government and the lovely cuts*.

514 jobs have already gone for police staff, more are being reviewed and then police officers are next in the pecking order based on length of service. This is also very public within the press and that also has its effects.

I will always have the option of returning to the force should the opportuinty arise in better circumstances but with my young family i cant afford to be a victim of the economic crisis at this time and want to spend more family time during these years.

Regards

*note* the entry pay for a probationer is £23,259 on commencment of employment. This increments also with every year of service but i dont have this luxury, i get a graduted pay point scale which has now been frozen as public sector pay rises have.
 
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CVIT roles are nothing but drivers and delivery people. There is nothing glamorous, it is controlled by the Unions (trade unions that is!) and the targets you have to meet are so high that most are unobtainable and cause dangerous situations when crews cut corners to get the run done.

This is a dirty, low paid, thankless job, there is little career progression and not much you can do with your licence apart from this job and the company will more than likely dictate how many hours you can do as most fall under driver hours so taking an additional job is out fo the question.

But, after all that, and you still want to go for it, good luck, keep your eyes open and don't cut corners.......it will help keep you safe!

Walks.
 
Thank you all for the replays. Im just thinking about the future for myself and my family and also the prospect that within G4S there may be many more lateral promotions.
 
Hello guys, I wanted to know your opinion, what would you choose better, to do a CViT or CCTV training, now I have a DS licence, but want to do something different?

I have a 7.5ton driving licence, maybe that is an advantage?
 
Riho said:
Hello guys, I wanted to know your opinion, what would you choose better, to do a CViT or CCTV training, now I have a DS licence, but want to do something different?

I have a 7.5ton driving licence, maybe that is an advantage?
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Why not start your own thread asking thart very question.
 
just a quick one policeprospect dont go into G4S thinking its easy to move around the company the diffrent sectors ie. cash solutions, custodial, risk may aswell be diffrent companys and have no conections between them so no internal moving around you join the que with the rest of them and go through the same application. as for the job its long hours but pays £10.66 per hour so its a fair wage they expect alot and its run more like a courier service than a security company. enjoy
 
Hi, thanks for the posts re G4S and the CVIT opportunities. Really good to see another person looking to join us.
Re the comment about not being able to move around the company, we do fill two thirds of our positions through internal recruiting. We did recognise that it may have appeared that it was not as easy as it should be to find roles within G4S we have made huge progress in offering a solution to this by building the G4S Career Centre. We are now working hard to ensure all internal and external vacancies are advertised there and that our employees can access the site quickly and easily.
 
Guys, I have been working as an AIT (Assets In Transit) officer for some time now...

Just some remarks from what I've read.

Policeprospect: If you're not sure (or don't know at all) of what the details of the job will entice, then I'm sorry to say you shouldn't get into it at all. Please don't take it personally my friend, but you need to be a certain kind of guy to do this, and to do it well...

Tapmaster: Don't know about the UK, but here in South Africa the basic starting salary of an officer is much more than the starting salary of a police officer, we have many ex policemen working in the industry now... Myself used to work in the prisons service.

Just my 2c guys...
 
I know I'm a bit late to this discussion but I can sympathise with policeprospect. I recently started working for one of the smaller CIT companies and have to say that the job has turned out to be nothing like what it says on the job description or that I've found in researching the job.

I'm not saying that it is totally different - just that there's so much 'reading between the lines' that has to be done that its basically not what I signed up to do.

For such a potentially dangerous job, I can't believe how much cutting corners is effectively encouraged by colleagues and managers - using a phone whilst driving (not hands free), overloading the vehicle, driving defective vehicles, other activities invalidating insurance policies etc.

Is this typical or just my view?
 
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Not just your view CVITMark it is typical of the industry and one reason why I was glad to get rid of it.

Without going into details (you are probably aware of the cutting corners) it makes a dangerous job into a stupidly dangerous job if you find yourself in the situation. On top of that, if you're 'hit' and found to have broken any rules or SOP's, the company will come after you and not the people who did it. Adding insult to injury, the lost money is taken out of the company profits and the next time a pay review comes around, it's all the crews that suffer - this is because it is highly unlikely the insurance company didn't pay out.

I've said it before and I've said it again - glorified delivery drivers who are put under increased pressure to hit unrealistic targets.

As I said, I'd never do that job again - don't care what any exec in any CVIT company says about the above comments, get your arses on the ground and see for yourself!

Stay safe all,

Walks
 
I would quit right now, but being young, I'd spend the next year looking for work (again). Plus, I've only spent a week or so on the vans so I'm hoping at least some of my problems might be mitigated. (Am I hoping too much?)

Mark
 
Stick to the SOP's, stick to the rules, keep your eyes open and if someone tells you otherwise, tell them where to go!

Even if you constantly fail to hit your deliveries and you can back it up saying you are doing everything correct as per the rules etc...there isn't much they can do but at least you are doing everything possible to stay as safe as you can.

Good luck with it - just watch for the bad habits.

Walks
 
Well I've been in for about 6 weeks now & it just gets worse and worse. I don't know how policeprospect is getting on in G4S but I'm ready to pack it in already. In 6 weeks, I've only finished on time 3 times (out of 25+ shifts) due to the sheer volume of the workload. Well, that and the incompetence of the managers.
 
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