Security Management Qualifications?

Ben,
Have a look at Control Risks Group they have just started the Certified security Consultant course with a twist. They have thrown in a NEBOSH health & safety course towards the end of the course.
 
Im looking at doing the CSC course as resettlement at Aldershot. It really sounds like something I can really put my mind to and enjoy doing. If anyone has any suggestions on reading material it would be appreciated if you could pm me,and also give me some pointers.

Regards
 
Hi lads,
thought id just jump on this thread, do you need any previous experience in the security industry to be eligible to attend a consultant/managers course?

All feed back welcome
Thanks
 
I would think you just need to do the course and then get your experience once you have the qualification. But like anything its about getting the work, and with work comes experience.
 
Hi lads,
thought id just jump on this thread, do you need any previous experience in the security industry to be eligible to attend a consultant/managers course?

All feed back welcome
Thanks
To take your MSc, you either needed a suitable degree or provable experience
 
Im looking at doing the CSC course as resettlement at Aldershot. It really sounds like something I can really put my mind to and enjoy doing. If anyone has any suggestions on reading material it would be appreciated if you could pm me,and also give me some pointers.

Regards
Hi MMorg,

A friend of mine is a general manager with Carlisle Security (x forces) he says you dont need any previous (civvy security that is) but it helps, as your still on the inside, dont mind me asking whats the bigger picture for you in consultancy, as a tip make sure you do the right resettlement course that'll get you the job, most adverts/ postitions want a good experienced applicant so have a good think about before you waste your resettlement budget civvy security can be a bit hap hazard sometimes. Gary352
 
Im currently in the RMP and have experience in all levels of investigations. Also have a few nice Home Office courses to my name. Hopefully they will help me along with regards to experience. Thanks for the reply.
 
Guys the CSCis THE course. Beats the CRG course hands down, the CRG jobbie is IOSH not NEBOSH also.

I would say it even beats the MSc aswell. The academic route is very criminality based, but the CSC will teach you all the theoretical AND practical elements of security "How to actually be a consultant".

Don't get me wrong, I think the academic route has merit, and am looking at traveling that route myself to some extent; but the CSC is the course that teaches you and gives you the tools to be a security consultant.

Take a look at my other posts in the Consulting forum or PM me for more details.
 
All,

The CSC looks (& sounds) good.

On my travels within the Industry, I have discovered that the ASIS delivered Certified Protection Professional (CPP™) is a respected qualification. The ASIS web site states that “This certification designates individuals who have demonstrated competency in all areas constituting security management”. I know the Americans place a lot of credence on this qual. Here is a link: https://www.asisonline.org/certification/index.xml

Hope this helps. I would also support the advice about backing up a Security qualification with a Safety competency. I know in my area (oil & gas) the two are inseparable.

Regards

Frank
 
Hi;
I have been looking at Loughborough University who conduct a Distance learning Security and Risk Management course which you can choose to take over a two or three year period. The link is Business School - Postgraduate Programme in Security Management, also the women who works there is extremely helpful and her name is Sandy Edwards.

I have also heard that the Anubis course is a very good course also.
Hope this helps and good luck.
 
I am currently half way through the Portsmouth Uni Risk and Security Management BSc but have elected to bin it in favour of the Leicester MSc in Security and Risk Management as it gets me the better qualification much faster.

In terms of work, the BSc 1st year is mainly about learning the method of academic writing and no points go to your final results, although you need the credits obviously. In the second year the work is more enjoyable all round as you have an idea by now what they are looking for. In fact there would be scope to increase the workload and finish the degree quicker. That having been said Portsmouth will not allow you to speed up the process and insist on 4 1/2 years as a minimum. At just over 600 quid a year I guess they want to get as much money off you as they can.

I have all the prep done for the MSc and will submit everything when I am back in UK, looking to start in February. The prospect of getting the higher qualification within a much shorter time frame is exciting and I am looking forward to getting the ball rolling, although I have to admit being nervous at shelling out 7K for it.

I will let you know what the MSc course work is like compared to the BSc when I get some through . . .
 
Hi Stumpy,

Shame to hear about you jumping ship from Portsmouth. I have just one unit to do and then I am finished the BSc (Hons) qualification. I juggled my study schedule and did my dissertation on CP training standards to coincide with the ongoing review of the SIA competencies. I found the course study schedule reasonably flexible but do understand your comment about the minimum length of time required to complete the course.

My biggest frustration was the excessive amount of Criminology and perceived lack of Security modules. When I asked to include a level 3 module on Fraud (selected from one of the other course syllabus) because this would help me in my job, they said no. I ended up doing something that wasn’t relevant to my day-to-day activities.

Anyway, it’s in the bag so I’m happy. Good luck with your MSc and lets hope you find it fits your desires.

Safe travel home.

Frank
 
I agree Frank. The criminology emphasis is very frustrating at Portsmouth. I can see how it would attract the Old Bill types who would use that to justify expenditure and deployment but it isn't too exciting for the more Security related fraternity.

Congrats on getting there mate and hope it signifies a more prosperous future.
 
Another security management course for anyone wanting a qualification in a short period of time, maybe of use to someone. For some reason could not get the link to work so copied and pasted the relevant bits.

Given the insecure and often rapidly changing environments in which aid agencies work, safety and security management is not an optional extra. It needs to be at the heart of humanitarian programmes.
In 2009, RedR are offering a Certificate in Security Management, focusing on humanitarian security. This Certificate is credit-rated by Oxford Brookes University.

This five-day intensive course will enable participants to identify the key requirements for managing security in complex emergencies and conflict zones by practicing essential techniques in risk management, security assessment and crisis response.
The course draws on extensive field case studies, the current humanitarian environment and the security management practices used by humanitarian bodies internationally.

The Certificate is competency based and focused on skills that you can demonstrate. Credits can be transferred to the Masters in Development and Emergency Practice (DEP) from Oxford Brookes University or other similar postgraduate qualifications.
http://www.redr.org.uk/en/What_We_D...rainingid/9D0AF4F3-0832-47A2-A512E137FA9CF6FD
Numeric Code: 08009

Date: 26 to 30 January 2009

Length: 5 Days

Location: UK


Residential/Non-Residential: Non-residential

Suitable for: Humanitarian staff working or looking to work in complex emergencies or focus on conflict environments. The course targets staff who are or will be security focal points or managing security within their organisation, and those who do or will have a project/programme management role in the field or HQ. Participants from government and intergovernmental agencies or the private sector, who are working in similar environments or with humanitarian organisations, are also encouraged to consider this course.
www.redr.org.uk
 
Hello all,

Here is another Security Management qualification from the Security Institute - Welcome to the Security Institute - Security management, industrial security, security training, security education and Professional Security

[h2]SyI Qualifications[/h2]
The SyI Certificate in Security Management is the Institute's own qualification, and is designed to promote and recognise the knowledge and ability of candidates currently employed or aspiring to employment in the private and public Security profession.

MODULES

The examination covers 6 modules, comprising 3 mandatory elements and 3 modules of the student's choice. The 3 core elements cover:
  • English Law or Irish Criminal Law
  • Management
  • Fire Prevention & Control, and Health & Safety
The additional 3 modules can be chosen from:
  • The Security or Corporate Assets
  • Protection of Persons, Equipment, Information & Goods
  • Emergency Situations
  • Practical Retail Security
  • Information Security
STUDY
A 12-month Distance Learning Programme is available through Perpetuity Training to support this qualification. The course has been designed with continuous assessment in mind. At the end of each of the 6 modules the learner completes and returns an assessment which contributes to half of the overall mark, with the final exam making up the other half. For further information visit http://www.perpetuitytraining.com/

The Distance Learning Programme is also available to students in Kenya and Romania.

MEMBERSHIP
On successful completion of the examination, students can apply for membership of the Security Institute. This is guaranteed at a minimum of Associate level (subject to the normal probity checks) and provides access to the full range of SyI member benefits.

2008 FEES
The UK DLP programme costs £776 and the Examination fees are £40 per module.
 
Where did you do your Msc in Security and Risk Management as i am looking to add to my Trainer qualifications and hopefully i will have the cash later on in 2009 to do the C.P course.
 
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