The T.A. Does that count as Services Experience?

see now despite all the privacy options my ex husband has still managed to infiltrate my facebook account and whine about it, so i just entertain myslf by writing shit about him and annoying him even more, it's a highly entertaining way to spend the day. To be honest i never really had any issues with my FB, i use it mainly for work contacts and to keep track of friends who are out in Afghan and Iraq mainly, apart from husbands family that are trying to adopt me when i never even met half of them which is slightly freaky, as i don't even have my own family on there.

What alarms me more is the amount of underage kids on there, my daughters 10 so not quite in her last year of junior school and almost all her friends have accounts on there with parental permission..... no way my daughters going on there thats for sure! Step daughter isn't impressed that i won't add her but i refuse to tone down my fould language and abuse to comply with an 11 y o
 
at the end of the day mate when its all said and done TA is better than civvie but not as good as EX MIL

personally the ranking is

civvie with a sg cctv not frontline
then
civvie with DS CP frontline
then
civvie with TA but this could be with special constubul whichs make them above normall civvies
then
emergency services with TA as they would have seen more shit than a normal person
then
armed forces army navy air force marines with sia tickect
this can then be broken down as LI is different to SF

now i know this will gets some replys but you can fit yourself in at which ever level

me im civvie DS frontline and have pride in my level if i had TA with it then i would be above DS whitout TA

now i know this will offend some but i did not mean any offence by it

cheers ED
 
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I don't quite agree with Edmunds post, per se, as I prefer to assess people's according to their own competence. I've worked with civvies and ex-mil... some good and some bad in both. I do get what Edmund's is trying to say though, experience and knowledge through situations encountered through either training or operations in an official capacity, (military or police,) should make a person more competent and professional at their job, and thus more appealing to potential employers.

What the TA should give you is knowledge and experience, that's the key two things (broken down to the simplest format) that you should aim for. Courses, training and tours, courses, training and tours... both take a lot of commitment, that may go up against your existing commitments. It seems like you have a general plan, I assume you have an end goal? CP...what function with in CP, medic, driving, etc?

And after all that... the CP job you're seeking is not guaranteed... your TA experience will stand you in good stead above candidates with lesser knowledge and experience but there are already, (and for the forseeable future,) an awful lot of people/rival candidates with extensive full time service, training, tours and operations that will be submitting CV's for the same job as you.

If you do go for the TA, use your time wisely and get knowledge and experience in areas that will make you more employable than the average joe getting out of the Mil and simply doing the (sub) standard SIA and expecting the dream CP job to fall in to their lap.

It is going to be a very steep uphill struggle (as it is for some former regulars) so I hope you have the support of those around you.

I'm not trying to put you off, just making sure that you have your eyes wide open.
 
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I don't quite agree with Edmunds post, per se, as I prefer to assess people's according to their own competence. I've worked with civvies and ex-mil... some good and some bad in both. I do get what Edmund's is trying to say though, experience and knowledge through situations encountered through either training or operations in an official capacity, (military or police,) should make a person more competent and professional at their job, and thus more appealing to potential employers.

What the TA should give you is knowledge and experience, that's the key two things (broken down to the simplest format) that you should aim for. Courses, training and tours, courses, training and tours... both take a lot of commitment, that may go up against your existing commitments. It seems like you have a general plan, I assume you have an end goal? CP...what function with in CP, medic, driving, etc?

And after all that... the CP job you're seeking is not guaranteed... your TA experience will stand you in good stead above candidates with lesser knowledge and experience but there are already, (and for the forseeable future,) an awful lot of people/rival candidates with extensive full time service, training, tours and operations that will be submitting CV's for the same job as you.

If you do go for the TA, use your time wisely and get knowledge and experience in areas that will make you more employable than the average joe getting out of the Mil and simply doing the (sub) standard SIA and expecting the dream CP job to fall in to their lap.

It is going to be a very steep uphill struggle (as it is for some former regulars) so I hope you have the support of those around you.

I'm not trying to put you off, just making sure that you have your eyes wide open.
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yeah thats what i meant cheers ed
 
you can still join the regs mind! They will take clerks and chefs upto a certain age and if you can bring a specialist trade they will take you on your own merit.

Once in, it's like a lot of other things - you have the opportunity to move around and get that experience you need - that too goes for the TA and Regs. I had the option to go on a conversion course off the back of my tour and stay with the unit full time as a Regular - if you are good, get on and get going this is always an option if you get that far.

Another thing to think about is the post "edmunds" made is pretty much the perception of the industry that most people have and the only side that is seen which is fine - however - it is just one view. Once you really get into the industry and see what's what and who's who, you will find that most experience of Mil and Police is nothing more than old timers telling the same story of the same tour and the same course they went on and the same instructor quotes and the same exersise and the same this and same that.....at the end of the day, yes, they maybe more disapline and more adaptable to adverse conditions but thier experience only gets them so far before they are seen as being exactly like the lad who stood on a club door at 18 rather than join the Army!

Just saying - with or without the experience - at the end of the day we are stood in the same field, in the same corridor, in the same lobby, in the same rain and dealing with the same crap. It's the age old debate that will go on and on and isn't helped by TP's taking on force leavers and overwhelming the saturated market place thinking that's what is needed.

Cheers

Walks
 
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