MARITIME SECURITY contract
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Sorry does it not plainly state on requirments that an SIA licence is required, there is your answer. truble right or wrong?? the question asked by the two members was answered before it was asked was it not.
I'm not having a go just stateing a fact. it apparent looking througfh a lot of posts on the forum that this happens often. as is it just me whom reads the posts and not just after work like most whom do not bring anything to the party?
Not talking about yourself by the way.
H20
I'm not having a go just stateing a fact. it apparent looking througfh a lot of posts on the forum that this happens often. as is it just me whom reads the posts and not just after work like most whom do not bring anything to the party?
Not talking about yourself by the way.
H20
protectasia
Longterm Registered User
protectasia
Longterm Registered User
dundeedave
New Member
I agree with protectasia, if it says you need an SIA licence then you have to produce one. I dont agree with it but if thats what is requested thats end of story. However, if its only to check for criminal records, why not just go to your local nick and pay £20 or what ever to have your records produced and forward them onto the Company concered.
I worked in Saudi on a high profile contract where there was alot of Eastern Europeans opperatives. We had to produce our criminal records to the company we were employed by as did the foreign contingent, but I know for a fact a few of them had them made up in their own language off the internet and produced them. Unless the company is prepared to follow through with the check it’s a complete waste of time. Again, it’s the Brit guys who were getting shafted.
DD
I worked in Saudi on a high profile contract where there was alot of Eastern Europeans opperatives. We had to produce our criminal records to the company we were employed by as did the foreign contingent, but I know for a fact a few of them had them made up in their own language off the internet and produced them. Unless the company is prepared to follow through with the check it’s a complete waste of time. Again, it’s the Brit guys who were getting shafted.
DD
Damn!
Must be me then!
Sorry if my post at the start of this thread was misjudged as being stupid because i asked about an sia badge!
Im not wishing to get into a shitfight on a biblical scale...
BUT.....
I also read what is said on the original post and cant see why stating that i hadnt got an sia badge and asking if it would be a problem for aquiring future work with TSL!
What might seem a stupid question to some is very relevant to others! Depends who reads it! But seeing as Mr Cauci hasnt replied (which is his choice then i will never know!).
And it would help if and when asking for "Multi-lingual" persons, that the specific languages being asked for be stated.......as a good few operators, especially those of us that join vessels anywhere may know a word or 2 of the colloquial!
Apologies to all for joining this site for networking purposes and trying to gain work!
I shall go to my room now and play with my G.I Joe figures!
Must be me then!
Sorry if my post at the start of this thread was misjudged as being stupid because i asked about an sia badge!
Im not wishing to get into a shitfight on a biblical scale...
BUT.....
I also read what is said on the original post and cant see why stating that i hadnt got an sia badge and asking if it would be a problem for aquiring future work with TSL!
What might seem a stupid question to some is very relevant to others! Depends who reads it! But seeing as Mr Cauci hasnt replied (which is his choice then i will never know!).
And it would help if and when asking for "Multi-lingual" persons, that the specific languages being asked for be stated.......as a good few operators, especially those of us that join vessels anywhere may know a word or 2 of the colloquial!
Apologies to all for joining this site for networking purposes and trying to gain work!
I shall go to my room now and play with my G.I Joe figures!
Cheers Blue,
PHEW....im still working on my top secret plan to fit a Johnson to a seaside dinghy just incase i get an escort come up without the sia's esteemed approval!
Its an armed task on a 4 man inflatable dinghy which means ill be looking for 3 other men who are phsically fit and can row. (even though it will be armed, can i ask the 3 successful applicants not to bring any knives!)
Any persons wishing to apply for a maritime security position on my dinghy should have time served "hard skills" that aint accredited by an unskilled person that sits in an office and cant distinguish a bulker from a heavy-lift!
Apply to- [URL="http://www.anotheruselessbitofpaper.doh"][url]www.anotheruselessbitofpaper.doh[/URL][/URL]
PHEW....im still working on my top secret plan to fit a Johnson to a seaside dinghy just incase i get an escort come up without the sia's esteemed approval!
Its an armed task on a 4 man inflatable dinghy which means ill be looking for 3 other men who are phsically fit and can row. (even though it will be armed, can i ask the 3 successful applicants not to bring any knives!)
Any persons wishing to apply for a maritime security position on my dinghy should have time served "hard skills" that aint accredited by an unskilled person that sits in an office and cant distinguish a bulker from a heavy-lift!
Apply to- [URL="http://www.anotheruselessbitofpaper.doh"][url]www.anotheruselessbitofpaper.doh[/URL][/URL]
dundeedave
New Member
Muzz.
Get the telephone number from the TSL website and call Max. I had a brief conversation with him, see what info he can give you. Please let me know how you get on.
Best call him around 14:00 hrs according to his girl Friday.
DD
Get the telephone number from the TSL website and call Max. I had a brief conversation with him, see what info he can give you. Please let me know how you get on.
Best call him around 14:00 hrs according to his girl Friday.
DD
damianbevs
Longterm Registered User
John,
Totally agree with what you said refs my last post but as for this STCW i have NEVER been asked for one......is this just mostly for the UK as when working in Africa, GoA , Indian Ocean this qual is the very last thing if not never asked for.
Am i wrong in saying it is more for the oil rig gigs???? (for the North Sea Tigers!!!! lol)
again only saying that this qual has never been asked from any of the campany's i have worked for, they all seem to be more influanced (spelling??) by my past record and RYA quals.
The STCW is something i have thought about but the SSO qual seems to be better for anyone wanting work out side the UK......?????
Bevs
Totally agree with what you said refs my last post but as for this STCW i have NEVER been asked for one......is this just mostly for the UK as when working in Africa, GoA , Indian Ocean this qual is the very last thing if not never asked for.
Am i wrong in saying it is more for the oil rig gigs???? (for the North Sea Tigers!!!! lol)
again only saying that this qual has never been asked from any of the campany's i have worked for, they all seem to be more influanced (spelling??) by my past record and RYA quals.
The STCW is something i have thought about but the SSO qual seems to be better for anyone wanting work out side the UK......?????
Bevs
remote medic
Longterm Registered User
Bevs / All
STCW is for work in the commercial sector - and is certainly required for the luxury / yacht market of employment throughout the world, and other associated maritime areas.
The oil industry ( as in installations / seismic boats / semi subs and FPSO typically uses BOSIET and FOSIET ( or US versions) as its survival training
Good to hear your still about mate
BZ
STCW is for work in the commercial sector - and is certainly required for the luxury / yacht market of employment throughout the world, and other associated maritime areas.
The oil industry ( as in installations / seismic boats / semi subs and FPSO typically uses BOSIET and FOSIET ( or US versions) as its survival training
Good to hear your still about mate
BZ
You should not be able to work any commercial / merchant marine position without your STCW-95 quals. That includes Security position.
If you are, your company is not in complience with international regulations.
Should you get injured, sick etc. you have a great risk to be hung dry.
The first thing an insurance company would be looking into would be your: Seaman's Healt Certificate, STCW-95 documentation and your familiarization sheet.
Same documets would be of great interest to any maritime lawyer in case of any incident that would require litigation ( or possible litigation ).
Let's put it this way, you either have them, or not.
After an incident it would be too late if you don't have them.
If you are, your company is not in complience with international regulations.
Should you get injured, sick etc. you have a great risk to be hung dry.
The first thing an insurance company would be looking into would be your: Seaman's Healt Certificate, STCW-95 documentation and your familiarization sheet.
Same documets would be of great interest to any maritime lawyer in case of any incident that would require litigation ( or possible litigation ).
Let's put it this way, you either have them, or not.
After an incident it would be too late if you don't have them.
Bevs
Far too many people misconstrue the term STCW (Standards of Training Certification for Watchkeepers). There are so many qualifications that fall under STCW, SSO is an STCW qualification: STCW Code Section A-V1/5.
I have a couple of guys offshore at the moment on a Seismic survey vessel and the minimum requirement from the client was British Seaman’s book, SSO, BOSIET/HUET in the end they relented (mainly because there were no Helo transfers involved) and they were willing to accept STCW Sea survival.
Have a look back through and you will see the content of the basic STCW95 course that some of the guys allude to.
Get a Brit seaman’s book and get yourself signed on to the vessel, might save you a lot of heartache down the line.
Big difference between offshore standards and basic commercial maritime standards.
Can’t comment on every case but it is horses for courses.
It comes back to Ye Old…………If a company ask for XYZ there is no point in applying for the work if you don’t have XYZ.
If they don’t ask and you don’t have, go for it!
John
Far too many people misconstrue the term STCW (Standards of Training Certification for Watchkeepers). There are so many qualifications that fall under STCW, SSO is an STCW qualification: STCW Code Section A-V1/5.
I have a couple of guys offshore at the moment on a Seismic survey vessel and the minimum requirement from the client was British Seaman’s book, SSO, BOSIET/HUET in the end they relented (mainly because there were no Helo transfers involved) and they were willing to accept STCW Sea survival.
Have a look back through and you will see the content of the basic STCW95 course that some of the guys allude to.
Get a Brit seaman’s book and get yourself signed on to the vessel, might save you a lot of heartache down the line.
Big difference between offshore standards and basic commercial maritime standards.
Can’t comment on every case but it is horses for courses.
It comes back to Ye Old…………If a company ask for XYZ there is no point in applying for the work if you don’t have XYZ.
If they don’t ask and you don’t have, go for it!
John
I was referring to commercial ships / merchant mariner working a security position on a ship under crew list / manifest.
Quote KurtYou should not be able to work any commercial / merchant marine position without your STCW-95 quals. That includes Security position.Quote Kurt
You might have thought this but this is a SECURITY CONTRACTORS FORUM .....?????? and I think this subject has been well covered, dug up and re-covered on a number of threads!!!!!!..... at the end of the day its as has already been quoted if you have the quals ..then Apply.... if not then phone,email and ask politely if your Quals will be given consideration.
So TSL thinking of Advertising any more work????
You might have thought this but this is a SECURITY CONTRACTORS FORUM .....?????? and I think this subject has been well covered, dug up and re-covered on a number of threads!!!!!!..... at the end of the day its as has already been quoted if you have the quals ..then Apply.... if not then phone,email and ask politely if your Quals will be given consideration.
So TSL thinking of Advertising any more work????
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Completely agree with the sentiments expressed in respect of an employer's minimal requirements. If you cannot satisfy them, do not waste your time in gaining a negative attitude from the employer!
Doing a bit of forward planning here for Summer 2011. I'll be needing 90+ personnel for a short-term port facility gig in the UK. SIA Licence (manned security or above) a MUST. SSO or PFSO cert a MUST.
Happy to receive CVs now.... or delay until you fulfil the requirements.
cv@securescot.com
Doing a bit of forward planning here for Summer 2011. I'll be needing 90+ personnel for a short-term port facility gig in the UK. SIA Licence (manned security or above) a MUST. SSO or PFSO cert a MUST.
Happy to receive CVs now.... or delay until you fulfil the requirements.
cv@securescot.com
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