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Invictus13

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Hi all,

just wandering if anyone had experience serving with the MOD Police.

If so what is work like...is it as boring as some say?

Mainly I'm interested in the fraud squad and Special Escort Group.
 
Invictus

If you have 5 years UK CID experience plus 2 degrees, why would you wish to go to the MOD Police, if your looking at Fraud investigations then the Met or City of London Police is where you should look. SEG, with your skills it sems a waste.
 
Hi CO19

thanks for the advice. I was looking at MOD purely as it would allow me to perhaps progress into the firearms field also. Just looking into the future it seems ex-firearms officers seem to have higher paid and much more readily available work when they leave the service (look at Iraq and Afghanistan) than CID or patrol officers.

Let me know what you think.

Thx
 
With due respect to the MOD Police, you would be better joining or rejoining a force like the Met, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Nottinghamshire or West Midlands.

But consider a commercial firearms course to gain some weapons experience if you are not ex military. Edelwies Tactical, Anson Tactical and others do firearms courses.
 
Invictus

As CO19 says you would be better off joining a force with more hands on firearms experience or doing a respected course. I spent 5 yrs with MOD Police, 2 at a Nuclear Station and 3 on the Support Unit, although the majority of officers are armed the only thing you can look forward to in respect of weapon handling are range days every couple of months. After your initial 3 week course training is very sparse due to station commitments and incidents are very very rare. As for SEG, if you dont have a great home life then its ideal cos you spend most of your time driving to and from Coulport/Faslane at 30 mph. When I left, 2 yrs ago, it had just merged with MOD guard service and was moving away from police work to concentrate on guarding duties, I even think they were cutting back on their Fraud/SB department. The job itself, if it hasnt changed since I left, after inital training you will be sent to a station that is short on officers, which 9 times out of 10 will be either Aldermaston or Burghfield. After about 18 months you can then apply for vacancies (as they become available)for other jobs, Dogs, Boats, OSU, SEG etc... Fraud was dead man's shoes as the dept is so small. The better option for firearms progression was to become an instructor, all though your initial course (Dry Weapons Trainer) is an 'in house' course you do progress onto a recognised national course with further chances of completing national firearms situation management courses. Hope this helps....
 
I served with the MDP between 1990 & 1995 the training then was very good and there was a fair bit of Physical Exercise, the job itself was very tedious but the money made up for that.
 
Hi,
I did 26 years in the MOD Police. Best bet if your looking at firearms is to be an instructor in that force, get qualified, and you will gain good experience in the firearms field, also oppertunity to police abroad as well.
It depends what your looking for really, Yes the role is basic and very routine at most locations, mainly armed police / guarding duties. On the plus side, its a career long job if you want it, good pay and conditions, oppertunity to work across the UK at various locations. By the way, the MOD guard force are part of the same agency (at present) but not part of the MOD Police.
I would agree that incidents involving firearms are extremely rare, weapons are carried in a defensive role and not really like other police forces firearms units. That said, its a respectable, important job and you can make a good career out of it if you want to. The MOD Police has very professional specialist units like operational support, Escort group (convoys), dogs, A small CID, and marine policing (boat units) at Naval bases. However it may take time to get into one of these roles, and you MUST be prepared to relocate.
 
Ill second co19s comments, Edelweiss Tactical run great firearms courses plus others,just my 5 cents,stay safe ram out.
 
Any experience is good experience, it depends on how you use it.
I am Met Police and love it. I work with an ex-Mod Plod guy who is very capable. He has been out to Bosnia and other places. But then he came here. Don't know why, but he did.
I am partisan, and I don't want to offend those from the rest of the country, but the opportunities in smaller forces are somewhat limited; we have had an influx of officers from Home County forces who are able to remain in their houses and work in the Met, using the free rail travel. It's becoming such a problem for the other forces that they are now actively deterring officers from leaving and trying to win back those that have.

There are many routes in to firearms work, but it's fair to say, the Met has the greatest number of jobs (more than all the home counties added together, according to recent stats) and we have a more diverse manner of deployment for the huge numer of armed officers.

Just as an aside, but to give you an idea of how much firearms work there is, I heard recently that an officer from here was at a provincial forces armoury, don't actually know why. They were discussing stocks held. According to the chap from the provincial force, they stock 1700 rounds. In a day, at any of the town ranges in London, when we are doing standard reclass shooting for AFO's (so nothing fancy) we will expend between 1500 and 1800 rounds. Every day, 5 days a week, for two months. Then we change the type of shooting and we may shoot more. It is seldom less.

The choice, I heard someone say, is yours...
 
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