Medics read this.

Does anyone know the outcome? Did the patient survive, what happened the person who injected Insulin into a hypo patient, any facts apart from names are most welcome otherwise is this just another urban myth, waiting to happen
 
By all accounts , Patient = full recovery , also did not take action against medic.
PSC= Argued the case with the insurance provider over medical quals that were required by the client at the start of contract. The insurance provider HAS footed the bill BUT prob changed its future policy to insist on registered staff.
The PSC in question is now currently advertising for UK HCPC Paramedics or US NREMT-Paramedics. HE / Mil experience in Iraq /Afghan essential..They will not take on SA HPC Paramedics. WHO could that be ? mmmmm
Not sure about the poor MIRA dude. But no action taken against him. He might be on a Paramedic Course now!!
 
it's an opportunity to use the insurance companies to force through the issue of proper qualification, acceptable proven experience and real standards. If the governing/awarding bodies won't uphold standards in the industry, and the employers go for the cheapest minimal option. Then the threat of being sued for vast sums and upholding real standards for fear of prosecution must be used as a club to force the issue. a collective front either by union of professional body assisted by the insurance companies can only be a move for the better.
 
Oddjob said:
it's an opportunity to use the insurance companies to force through the issue of proper qualification, acceptable proven experience and real standards. If the governing/awarding bodies won't uphold standards in the industry, and the employers go for the cheapest minimal option. Then the threat of being sued for vast sums and upholding real standards for fear of prosecution must be used as a club to force the issue. a collective front either by union of professional body assisted by the insurance companies can only be a move for the better.
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Yep! like that'll happen.
 
Divided you fall then.
No different to the rest of the security industry really.
maybe the employers will eventually learn by their mistakes, at the cost of others lives.
But sadly I agree with your thoughts starlight. like that'll happen and pigs might fly.
 
Oddjob said:
Divided you fall then.
No different to the rest of the security industry really.
maybe the employers will eventually learn by their mistakes, at the cost of others lives.
But sadly I agree with your thoughts starlight. like that'll happen and pigs might fly.
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Tragically, a much more realistic scenario.......
 
Funny...

But in my book this boils down to lack of management/ responsibility from an indervidual or group that should know better. Surely the said coy should really cover their own a**e and have a sign off from either their underwriter on minimal quals or have a third party medical coy brought in to oversee. Its not as if there are no medical coys in this sector offering the service.

The other point is that the said coy may loose its insurance, thus making it impossible for them to continue trading. Though they will probably re-phoenix.

Personally, this is a case that seems to be one of many over the years. Classic case of boots on the ground first and then react later.

Good luck all.
 
You shouldn't make the assumption that companies who specialise in remote medical operations will be successful in identifying questionable qualifications when they are tasked with vetting medics for PSD positions. The evidence of this is well and truly out there.
 
Exactly!
And who is accountable to whom and for what when they are registered in one country, operate from another, employ from across the globe, deploy to yet another country, and pay from offshore account to off another shore account.
 
I would love to know what the Patient thought as he was being given insulin.

Actually, this is one of my pet hates. If you have a medical condition;
A. Manage it (Especially diabetes! I work with diabetics who can almost predict their HGT reading just based upon how they feel)
B. Learn EVERYTHING you possibly can about it. Become an SME!
C. Speak up if some bloody retard 'medic' is going to make your condition worse.


HOWEVER

None of the above exonerates the 'medic' from ****ing up. It just shits me when you have people who have allergies/easily managed medical problems and don't know enough to look after themselves. Natural selection or what?
 
lennarn said:
I'm four weeks into nursing school and already know how to treat these pats...
He should never have passed his courses!
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He should never have been on the courses in the first place.....

And what will people learn from this? Absolutely nothing. Business as usual.
 
Absolutely correct Lukem. I have attended a few courses over the years and I can say with hand on Heart a lot of the CP game is just that, a game of bluff. Look to the O&G industry and they would put the Military to shame as far as courses being run in a professional manner. A lot of guys think that turning on a Power point presentation covers it all, it does not!
Ronin Grad.
 
Course that offer FPOS-I students cannulation and other such invasive skills are not helping either, do employers actually recognise these certificates?
 
Sounds like the medic either didn't bother taking a glucometer measurement or didn't have one with him, either way some hypostop and the experience of being an actual trained medic would have resolved the situation very quickly!
 
tough

while it is tough to arm chair quarterback, this medic really should have known better. one does not get to be a "medic" in about a months time. this person actually did more harm than good. unfortunately, it makes the rest of us medics a look bad. that said, accidents do happen. hope it works out for all those involved...

remote medic said:
I think a bigger problem is the lack of Indemnity insurance and sop's provided to health care professionals / medics in a remote setting, by the less reputable / knowledgeable organisations.

Ignorance is bliss but its only a question of time before it bites us on the arse ( as is the case above). Some employing companies seem to think its an easy money earner employing "medics", not taking into account background, training, experience, professional registration, and ongoing medical training and clinical updates (as well as Insurance cover).

Recently I had my Insurance provider withdraw my Professional Indemnity Insurance, as the area of overseas operations I work in is not covered by their policy. ( Yet to see written copy of employing companies Insurance cover !!).

As a qualified offshore medic, in days of old when working through agencies - the agency at least provided written details of the medics insurance cover - without such you would be put back on the helo and sent back to the beach...

Ah well ... been on task over 6 months now and yet get to test fire weapon (let alone zero) ...........be interesting to see how that holds up in a court of law!!!!

Not THREADERS at all !!

Stay safe

BZ
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Start sarcasm

it's impressive a Fpos-I or Mira or some other veteran edinburgh college of "makey upey mediciny" knew how to draw insulin and inject it properly. I mean fair play to the guy, not every medic borne from the EDEXCEL alumni could actually do that.

If only he had use a nasopharengeal airway this all could of been avoided.

end sarcasm

In all honesty, this stuff actually happens in a clinical environment a lot. Ok not Hyper/Hypo mistakes but still, that's why we carry narcan when we push just a bit too much.

(google explodes as Narcan is researched in a furry)
 
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