problem getting work

Hi guys

Being one of those ex coppers, that Brummie has mentioned in Afghan I am in full agreement that this line of work has been over militarized. Biased opinion says you all!!

The bottom line is that I feel the recruitment process should focus on the individual and not what cap badge he used to wear. For one I am not impressed by some of the so called elite that we all work with in this industry which has a fixation with "wings and daggers".

i am an ex RUC copper and I must have something to offer as I have worked in Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 4 years for two of the industries largest companies.

Keep at it mate and use the grey matter to your best ability and follow the good advice offered by Mick.

Good luck!!
 
thank you annie,although im at the bootom of the ladder i helped a girl i meet at DOL interview with some crappy festival work as she was struggling to get started and she was very gratefull,so i know you girls dont always walk into the good jobs straight off,it might just be me ,maybe im getting a bit bitter but it seems to me that most people on here have a smuggness to themselves now that they are where i want to be ,i could be wrong ,i could be tired ,due to being up all night sending off cv's i dont know but im sure theres enough people on here to tell me i am lol
 
I am not about to start slanging the ex mil guys one cos there are too many on here for a start and it would be an onslaught of abuse, two because they are only trying to work the same as any of us are, but yes Bob, i agree that there is a huge amount of favour curried towards the ex mil, but in such cases as high risk these are the guys that should be there. After all they are highly trained for such tasks unlike your average cpo who used to work in tescos , hey i used to be a stay at home mum and write porn (that is true by the way, not sarcasm), until i decided i wanted a change in my life, and rather stupidly chose cpo as the way to go.

Its horses for courses and some guys are just better equipped to deal with high risk and yes in my opinion we should leave that to the ex mil guys, after all our taxes paid to train them.... just call it getting a bit extra out of that money.

They are professionals at what they do..... just like i can write a great porn story, you can take the man out of the army but never take the army out of the man........and for what its worth the money out there these days really is hardly worth getting shot or blown up for, the streets arent lined with super dollars any longer. And before anyone starts yes i do know that personally.

Some of us are good at Uk work, some of us are meant to be in the pit, it's just a fact that i as an ex housewifey mummy am never going to be out there wielding an AK and hitching a lift on a humvee, no matter how much i'd like to
 
AndyE said:
After following this thread from the start, this is my interpretation of working in the Middle East. If you have served in the Military on operations in Iraq/Afghan and completing a hostile environments CP course you then fit the criteria for employment and insurance purposes.

If you have served in the Military for 10 years and on operations in Northern Ireland, Iraq 91, Bosnia Etc. Then deployed to civvi street for a few years then completed a Hostile Environments CP course and gained the SIA licence, you do not fit the criteria for the Middle East???

You can take the man out of the Military, but you can't take the Military out of the man.

That' just my opinion.

Regards Andy:)
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I had a letter back from AG today, to which i have sent in two CV's one before I did my Cp Cse and one after.

But the replies are both the same it must be a standard letter even though its says read with great interest,but no thanks this is based upon our recruitment needs and client requirements.

Hence my prevoius post so what's the secret guys and girls?????
 
still dont get it do you andy,let me explain it to you mate once you have been on civvie street mate you have had it ,because you cant compete with lads comming out the forces doing a cp course and going straight back out there ,pmc will always take the guy with the most recent experiance in a hostile enviroment,cp mate is'nt psd
 
i would like to hear about anyone who has been working on civvie street (ex forces)for ,lets say maybe a year after comming out of the army who have got a job in a hostile enviroment,i asked most pmc's if i did a hostile enviroment course would they employ me then,armour ,crg hart edinborough risk,sabre,blue hackle,erinys do i need to go on,the reason ,people leaving the forces to chase the money with a quick cp course so as to get back out there with a pmc
 
Hi Mate, I do get it but I thought the name of the game was to provide safe passage from A to B be it convoy/vip,flight rather than fight.

now I've Started something

Andy
 
I can only speak on behalf of our courses.

We have deployed, to Iraq and Afghanistan the following "types";
Large number of former US/UK Mil, without Iraq experience.
Large number of former US/UK Mil, with Iraq experience (1991)
A few former US/UK Cops, without Iraq experience.
An individual civilian non mil/cop with extensive civ CP experience, now works with Aegis but had deployed previously to Iraq before completing our course.
Couple of Ex UK Prison Officers, with previous mil but no HR exp

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It is a definate "who you know" and "how you perform" on our PSD Operator course, we WILL do everything and speak to people we know if yo perform well on our course. We MAKE NO PROMISES though, but hard work and attitude matters, we wont put our names to yours, if you're not right.

Look on the Aegis website, why else are we listed on "CP Course completed" which is part of their application form............ cos they know us and like how and what we do........... why else would they still come down to our training centre to see what's happening??:D

WHO YOU KNOW STILL COUNTS:p
 
This is a good thread for guys and girls entering into the industry who would like to work in the Middle east. The pro's and con's and which course they should choose.
 
i thought ronin south africa was one of the best courses to do thats why i paid £4800.00,to show people i was serious about the job i was willing to do
 
I looked at that cse and they have to do fittness test as well,run,swim etc also you go out with the ambulance and treat real casualty's?
 
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im not knocking the course i would do it again i was 45 when i did my course so the phisical isnt that difficult,i did it for the paramedical part due to my age i thought i would need as many aces up my sleeve as possible(im 46 now),i did mostly convoy work in the army carrying nucular missiles,and i cant even get convoy work out there
 
paramedical side of it is better than any UK cse on the market? I think a few of the provider's hold the key with the big companies ie supply
 
i agree with PSD training give the guy abreak we was all in the same boat when we left the services and if it was not for iraq and afghan alot of us would not have jobs the uk circuit is hard enough to get into but if your looking for hostile work take some time out and bang a couple of more courses out to make you employable medical,driving etc etc i think that IS what it is all about now having a good CV and also that experience but your not gonna get that untill your out in a hostile part of the world or working in the UK.Just keep pushing your CV out while doing these courses and some1 will see that your taking the time and effort anda company will grab you
 
I agree with opinion from other members however from my experience after military,graduate PSD course looking to be employed in Middle East or Africa, not Europa, do I haw benefit if I work for few euro in some event?
As I say I don't want work in UK or Germany sow I`m rather working civil job earing moor.
 
After reading the thread from beginning to end, I would like to say, as a beginner in this industry, that this is what CPWorld is all about.
Yes! The thread didn’t have the best of beginnings but as I continued reading I saw a bunch of guy’s helping others starting/continuing their careers. Nowadays this type of help is priceless…. I could go on all the day!
To all of you with the knowhow, thanks for all your help.
To all, starting as me, perseverance, patience and never give up!
Yet again, thank you all, for making CPWorld what it is.
PJA
 
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