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Andy442

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I posted on CP World asking for applications from FEMALE operators with a very specific skill set.
A female IS NOT a male for example 'no willy'
I have been sent numerous CVs by guys now.
To all the muppets that have sent me your CV I would like to inform you it is in the bin. Please send me your CP world user name so you can sent packing from here too.
I know work is slack but seriously.

I WILL be advertising for male operators in the very near future so congratulations you have put yourself out of the running.
Again, I will be asking for a very particular skillset.
A few pointers for those submitting CVs when I do advertise.
Please include a photo
I do not need to know about your tenure at Primark 6 years ago. Keep your CV specific to the task at hand and only include the info I need.
I will be reading a lot of CVs so I want to be able to see at a glance if the right people are advertising.
Yes, you are all great leaders of people and a team player.
I do not need to see this also. If you are just sending a generic CV that you send to 50 companies per day please do not clutter my in box with it.
I would like to see that effort has been put into the CV and made to be specific for the task.
If you say you can speak a language I will ensure that you are interviewed in that language.
I have some pretty good tasks coming up and I will advertise here first despite the tools that are doing their best to screw it up for everyone else.
I will post the details in the current vacancies section when I am ready for the first batch.
DO NOT PM ME REGARDING THIS TASK.

CM, have you got my back on this one??????
 
Just invite them for an interview and medical, then when they turn up send them to the medical room which is kitted out like a surgery and have a doctor talk them through the operation before signing the consent form. You might also like to video their reaction and put on You Tube so we can all have a laugh.


A query about another part of you stipulation, where people have worked for years (or even short periods) in non-relevant jobs, do you suggest those parts of their life are just left blank, leaving you wondering what they were doing for years, or would it be best to put it as briefly as possible. For instance "2000-2008 I worked for various companies as an electrician" type of thing.
 
Littlewoman
I appreciate that gaps do not look good on a CV but I do like to see applicants tailor a CV more to a specific job, rather than be lazy and just send the same thing out to everyone. If I am applying for a job then I ensure that I highlight the specific qualifications and experience that will be relevant to that job.
If someone worked at Blockbuster renting films from 2003 to 2004 then I believe that 2003-2004 Sales assistant at Blockbuster video will suffice. I do not need the whole kit and caboodle about serving customers etc etc.
If I am advertising for someone with evidence gathering experience then I would like to see that emphasised and so on.
As a recruiter I get several CVs and they need to catch my eye to sort the wheat from the chaffe.
 
i am new to the site and i am interested in getting into this line of work, although this post was because of an inconvenience to you thanks as it has given me some tips for my cv in the future.
 
Andy442 said:
Littlewoman
I appreciate that gaps do not look good on a CV but I do like to see applicants tailor a CV more to a specific job, rather than be lazy and just send the same thing out to everyone. If I am applying for a job then I ensure that I highlight the specific qualifications and experience that will be relevant to that job.
If someone worked at Blockbuster renting films from 2003 to 2004 then I believe that 2003-2004 Sales assistant at Blockbuster video will suffice. I do not need the whole kit and caboodle about serving customers etc etc.
If I am advertising for someone with evidence gathering experience then I would like to see that emphasised and so on.
As a recruiter I get several CVs and they need to catch my eye to sort the wheat from the chaffe.
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That's fine Andy, and is more or less what I do. Although I have to say that in the past, I have had one employer insist they need a photo and another saying that including a photo makes you look vain. One will say too much detail, one will complain of too little. Different employers have different expectations and each insist theirs is the only way. Perhaps it would be good if employers put something on their website about how they like CV's formatted, then they can simply throw out those that don't comply. It would allow you to specify exactly where you want key bits and make it easier to see who has the exact quals you want.
 
davidd said:
Name and shame.....
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Oh yes. I will.
Littlewoman
At the moment and due to reasons I cannot go into at the moment we are not recruiting through the website. There is a great deal of confidentiality required at the moment.
I have addressed this with CM.
I am hoping that my post with the explanation should clarify what is required when we do recruit.
Each employer works in a different manner and this is just my method.
I am sorry but I am maybe a little old fashioned and straight to the point but at the moment my work load is immense.
When I want someone to apply I want the pertinent facts-right where I can see them.
It shows to me that the person has given thought to the application and not just fired off a generic CV.
As for the photo....... Again, I am a little old fashioned. I like to put a face to a name. I prefer my staff to be in good physical shape, presentable and have a professional look about them. The photo they choose says something about them too. If I want someone to work in a liaison capacity, a photo of them looking threatening will put me off.
It is ok having a good CV but please be prepared to alter it accordingly to suit your application.
 
Andy442 said:
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I posted on CP World asking for applications from FEMALE operators with a very specific skill set.
A female IS NOT a male for example 'no willy'
I have been sent numerous CVs by guys now.
To all the muppets that have sent me your CV I would like to inform you it is in the bin. Please send me your CP world user name so you can sent packing from here too.
I know work is slack but seriously.
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Hope karma treats you well Andy and you don't one day find your self desperate for work and willing to try anything to get a sniff at work, if your going to advertise on a site for free which has 50000+ members your going to get time wasters, fair enough bin them. I once advertised for staff on another site and got all manner of time wasters, wannabes and jacket fillers all of which got binned but I would never be so arrogant as to suggest they got banned from the forum.

Whilst it is good to see members helping members you are being rewarded for your efforts by your client so take the rough with the smooth.

Andy442 said:
CM, have you got my back on this one??????
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I do hope this is not the case.
 
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matt34 said:
Hope karma treats you well Andy and you don't one day find your self desperate for work and willing to try anything to get a sniff at work, if your going to advertise on a site for free which has 50000+ members your going to get time wasters, fair enough bin them. I once advertised for staff on another site and got all manner of time wasters, wannabes and jacket fillers all of which got binned but I would never be so arrogant as to suggest they got banned from the forum.

Whilst it is good to see members helping members you are being rewarded for your efforts by your client so take the rough with the smooth.



I do hope this is not the case.
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It's not only the site's that are free to advertise that generate resumes (CV's) from total cretins. I advertised several posts on CPW and 90% of the replies were from idiots who hadn't even read the posts. I would not advertise a post on any free forum again. Paid for forums generate better responses, less morons.
 
Thanks for the karma check Matt.
I do ok for myself. That is true. But everything I have has been gained by hard work, reputation building and keeping my clients happy. If one day I do happen to find myself struggling for work then I will ask why. If I cant get work then I am not suitable for the job anymore or I have sullied my reputation, a reputation that provides me with my work.
I am merely trying to share my experiences with other members and point out what I am looking for when recruiting.
I am not trying to put anyone down for struggling in an overcrowded industry.
I am pissed however when I specifically request not be sent CVs by people not matching my criteria. It shows that they have no respect for my wishes or are too dumb to understand a simple instruction.
I want specific people for specific tasks. When I want then I ask.
If karma is going to punish me for trying to give a steer and not tolerate fools then so be it.
 
Are you able to work out how many unsuitables sent their cv as a result of not reading your post properly as to how many sent a cv knowing they were unsuitable but out of desperation?
 
db1 said:
Are you able to work out how many unsuitables sent their cv as a result of not reading your post properly as to how many sent a cv knowing they were unsuitable but out of desperation?
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well i would have thought that all the males that applied for the female task were unsuitable

and all the males that sent there cvs in out of desperation where disrepectful to the poster as the task was a FEMALE task lol

andy name and shame mate all job posters should do the same.

if they are dull enough let us know so we can take the piss out of them

cheers ed
 
Never had to advertise to fill any jobs in my life, that's what networks/friendships are for. Also ensures quality control.

Fair enough if its for 50 people at an event, but for a 2/3 person task I'd just go to my phone book.
 
protectasia said:
Never had to advertise to fill any jobs in my life, that's what networks/friendships are for. Also ensures quality control.

Fair enough if its for 50 people at an event, but for a 2/3 person task I'd just go to my phone book.
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Fair enough
However I was looking for potentially a dozen operators with particular skills. I have used the ones I knew and had to advertise for the rest.
Apologies for not being awesome.
FFS
 
You try to help others out and essentially get called Billy no mates.
Maybe I shouldn't post the next round of vacancies.
 
Really no need for sarcastic replies, originally I thought you were a bit of a d#ck, but reading your posts again I sense frustration and feel you are getting a little sensitive.

Forums like this are a good network as you rightly point out, feel free to get in touch if you want any advice.
 
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littlewoman said:
That's fine Andy, and is more or less what I do. Although I have to say that in the past, I have had one employer insist they need a photo and another saying that including a photo makes you look vain. One will say too much detail, one will complain of too little. Different employers have different expectations and each insist theirs is the only way. Perhaps it would be good if employers put something on their website about how they like CV's formatted, then they can simply throw out those that don't comply. It would allow you to specify exactly where you want key bits and make it easier to see who has the exact quals you want.
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From my point of view I don't see why the employer should have to walk the applicant through the application process, if you can't put together a CV I don't see why the employer should tell you what to put down or how to format it. A CV is your opportunity to sell yourself and if you can't do that effectively then your unlikely to have people falling over themselves to employ you. It may sound harsh but thats life.

Read the advert throroughly, most adverts have "Essential" and "Desirable" skills/quals. if you have all the Essentials then your suitable, if you don't your not suitable.
If your missing an essential but have the majority of desirables then possibly depending on what your lacking, apply and see how you go but include in the covering letter that you acknowledge for example they specified 5yrs military and you only have 4 but justify your application by offering more detail. If in the case above they want a female, no amount of advanced undewater knife fighting will swing it so don't waste your time or theirs by applying.

Finding work isn't like winning the lottery, if you apply for 1,000 jobs your totally unsuitable for your just going to get 1,000 rejections and be out of pocket for the cost of stamps. This "in it to win it" approach doesn't do anyone any favours.

I appreciate times are increasingly difficult, but thats all the more reason to be smarter about things, in the past I have used job adverts for positions I would like to give me pointers about further training I would benefit from, particularly the desirable skills/quals, it can help you to highight areas which you may not have considered relevant for the role and help in your own development for future opportunities.

Sorry for ranting on a bit but I'm on one this morning!

Cheers
 
I agree with Andy 100% on this matter, why would you want to entertain a person who does not fit the criteria yet alone fiiys the gender. All this is show is the applicant hasnt took the time and effort to read the information required, so why should you as a recruiter take the time and effort to read a persons CV? All that person is doing is just high lighting their namedor the future when it pops up again. I do understand that some people including myself will no disclose previous sensitive jobs on a CV but will provide a brief description, after all we do sign a confidentialty agreement and its not professional given clients details out. But seriously males applying for a female role is just not acceptable and to be honest Andy has a valid point regards this.
 
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