Which paramedic course gives the highest level of training and qualifications.
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MisterBrightside
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Thanks Lads.
Yes the road is definitely not easy or quick.
A guy I used to work with recommended me for a medic position in Iraq knowing that I was working on the UK ambulances. He told the HR guy that I was a Paramedic when in fact at the time I was still a Tech. At the interview the guy asked me if my name was spelt correctly as he did not see my name on the Paramedic register. I then had to explain that I was an EMT/Ambulance Technician and not a Paramedic (I don't think he believed me). The point being that some UK based recruiters for overseas jobs like Afghan and Iraq will check the UK register and through lack of knowledge on the various courses may not recognise an overseas qualification.
On a medical for the ships a UK Doctor asked me if an Ambulance Technician fixed ambulances! The point being is if a medical professional like a GP doesn't know what a Tech is then what hope do you have on an CP interview explaining your overseas Paramedic/medic course.
Obviously this may not be the case for all companies. I am not trying to raise the hackles of anybody who supplies or has taken an overseas course (I myself started with Ronin, South Africa). I am only stating my experiences and the difficulties in trying to get a job after spending thousands of pounds and some interviewer or GP has not got a clue in what your actually qualified to do. Overseas experience can be excellent though (I can vouch for that).
Just some food for thought!
MB
Yes the road is definitely not easy or quick.
A guy I used to work with recommended me for a medic position in Iraq knowing that I was working on the UK ambulances. He told the HR guy that I was a Paramedic when in fact at the time I was still a Tech. At the interview the guy asked me if my name was spelt correctly as he did not see my name on the Paramedic register. I then had to explain that I was an EMT/Ambulance Technician and not a Paramedic (I don't think he believed me). The point being that some UK based recruiters for overseas jobs like Afghan and Iraq will check the UK register and through lack of knowledge on the various courses may not recognise an overseas qualification.
On a medical for the ships a UK Doctor asked me if an Ambulance Technician fixed ambulances! The point being is if a medical professional like a GP doesn't know what a Tech is then what hope do you have on an CP interview explaining your overseas Paramedic/medic course.
Obviously this may not be the case for all companies. I am not trying to raise the hackles of anybody who supplies or has taken an overseas course (I myself started with Ronin, South Africa). I am only stating my experiences and the difficulties in trying to get a job after spending thousands of pounds and some interviewer or GP has not got a clue in what your actually qualified to do. Overseas experience can be excellent though (I can vouch for that).
Just some food for thought!
MB
Brilliant!
AREMT is for me a Joke and robbers !! I'm a AREMT-EMT and this registration will bring you nowhere !!!! If you check the duration of a NREMT training course you'll see it's 3 time more longer than AREMT course.
Do a US Paramedic course or enroll into University and get a degree in Paramedic Science or practice ! More benefit for you,believe me !!
Take care
Do a US Paramedic course or enroll into University and get a degree in Paramedic Science or practice ! More benefit for you,believe me !!
Take care
If a qualification doesn't allow registration to HCPC immediatly after finishing then it is not a Paramedic Course.
Paramedic is protected you can't use it unless in the UK unless you are HCPC registered.
You can ask for registration if your course has equivalency but would appear this course doesn't have this till year 6.
There are no shortcuts to being a Dr.
There should be no shortcuts to being a Paramedic.
It takes time to be accepted into an NHS Trust for training.
That is life.
You could always join the Army and do CMT quals.
Why does everybody want to be a Paramedic in five minutes these days.
It takes time.
Paramedic is protected you can't use it unless in the UK unless you are HCPC registered.
You can ask for registration if your course has equivalency but would appear this course doesn't have this till year 6.
There are no shortcuts to being a Dr.
There should be no shortcuts to being a Paramedic.
It takes time to be accepted into an NHS Trust for training.
That is life.
You could always join the Army and do CMT quals.
Why does everybody want to be a Paramedic in five minutes these days.
It takes time.
Quite simply too many people with no interest in patient care, no interest in clinical standards and only attracted to the money.
If you think a 6 week course in the boonies is going to get you on a hcpc register or on an oil platform where you're the only qualified medic for miles you're mistaken.
Scott
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If you think a 6 week course in the boonies is going to get you on a hcpc register or on an oil platform where you're the only qualified medic for miles you're mistaken.
Scott
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Strongly disagree! HCPC registration is not the be all and end all of pre-hospital care. HCPC International reciprocation also takes forever and a day. I have said it before on these forums 3 years at school does not a good paramedic make. The old school system worked and should have stayed.
The reason everyone wants to be a paramedic in 5 minutes is because it gets them a better daily rate in Iraq.
The reason everyone wants to be a paramedic in 5 minutes is because it gets them a better daily rate in Iraq.
Starlight
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I don't have a degree either, and don't intend fookin about getting one. It would make absolutely no difference what-so-ever to my working practice, nor would it affect my day rate - so why bother?
The thing that gets my goat is the AREMT comes into a lot of criticism as it was abused by many however we all get tarred with the same brush. The AREMT system follows the US DOT process, Jones & Bartlett programme, Nancy Caroline text, 250 questions test paper with 80% pass mark, 11 practical exams, ACLS and registration that requires 400 hours of patient contact with skills logs. It also requires annual re-registration, skills log, recorded patient contact, 40 CEUs and renewed ACLS. For some it was a means to an end, like myself. No time to go to uni and no interest in UK ambulance work, no time to go to the states and no interest in US ambulance work, just someone looking to get RPL and a recognisable work title for the uneducated and in total it cost me around £10k to complete.
I understand the UK uni system allows a large amount of placement and i am not bucking the system what i disagree with is the comment that if the course you have completed does not gain HCPC registration post course then it is not a paramedic course.
I am a former CMT1 BATLS BART (14 years with 7 operational tours, countless med covers and placements), Offshore Medic, AREMT-P, ACLS, PHTLS, DAC-EMS (Instructor) with 24 years experience and my practice is very patient care orientated because thats what the job is or at least should be, patient driven. I just get very threaders when i am told i am not a real medic because i don't hold HCPC or NREMT registration,even more threaders and i voice my opinion on it when guys have back doored courses such as AREMT and OSM.
And as a footnote i have not spoken to many guys in the Ambulance service that have recommended it as a positive career path nor back home do i call or refer to myself as a Paramedic.
No matter what system you use you will get the good the bad and the ugly HCPC included but the tarring with the same brush thing is getting a little monotonous.
I understand the UK uni system allows a large amount of placement and i am not bucking the system what i disagree with is the comment that if the course you have completed does not gain HCPC registration post course then it is not a paramedic course.
I am a former CMT1 BATLS BART (14 years with 7 operational tours, countless med covers and placements), Offshore Medic, AREMT-P, ACLS, PHTLS, DAC-EMS (Instructor) with 24 years experience and my practice is very patient care orientated because thats what the job is or at least should be, patient driven. I just get very threaders when i am told i am not a real medic because i don't hold HCPC or NREMT registration,even more threaders and i voice my opinion on it when guys have back doored courses such as AREMT and OSM.
And as a footnote i have not spoken to many guys in the Ambulance service that have recommended it as a positive career path nor back home do i call or refer to myself as a Paramedic.
No matter what system you use you will get the good the bad and the ugly HCPC included but the tarring with the same brush thing is getting a little monotonous.
Really ? I see some of them in Iraq and they're good. As a French speaker it should even be easier for you to find employment, so what's the problem ?
Oh wait a minute... are you AREMT-B or P ?
I agree with Med1c999 and Arnaud, I am AREMT-P and I started to work for an oil company 2 two days after the end of my course...
You think HCPC paramedics are the best ? Who only follow the doctors orders and don't think outside the box ? THIS is the joke.
I worked with emergency nurses on the field who don't lnow how to think outside the hospital, who order oxytocin for a remote site clinic just in case if a local woman delivers a baby...
The client is really happy with my job, not because I provide the best healthcare of the world, but because I think FIELD, I think CLIENT and how to do more better with less money, I think FLEXIBLE, I think as an Ex soldier...
I prefer to work with AREMT-P because they had a life before to become a medic. Most of the time they have experience of Africa and Middle East and are able to do more than paramedic job ( waiting for an emergency ).
Mitch23, in case you are AREMT-B, you right. This qualification doesn't drive you nowhere, and this is the same for UK ambulance technician and NREMT-B if you wanna work overseas. Become EMT-P and the doors will open to you, especially if you speak french and want to work in Africa.
You think HCPC paramedics are the best ? Who only follow the doctors orders and don't think outside the box ? THIS is the joke.
I worked with emergency nurses on the field who don't lnow how to think outside the hospital, who order oxytocin for a remote site clinic just in case if a local woman delivers a baby...
The client is really happy with my job, not because I provide the best healthcare of the world, but because I think FIELD, I think CLIENT and how to do more better with less money, I think FLEXIBLE, I think as an Ex soldier...
I prefer to work with AREMT-P because they had a life before to become a medic. Most of the time they have experience of Africa and Middle East and are able to do more than paramedic job ( waiting for an emergency ).
Mitch23, in case you are AREMT-B, you right. This qualification doesn't drive you nowhere, and this is the same for UK ambulance technician and NREMT-B if you wanna work overseas. Become EMT-P and the doors will open to you, especially if you speak french and want to work in Africa.
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sparkymedic
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tomtom33, I agree with some of your statements but HCPC Paramedics are largely autonomous, we certainly don't 'follow doctors orders'! We're all healthcare professionals and we each bring different skills and experience, rather than stating one professional body or registration is a joke, we should applaud people who universally want to do the best for our patient's, even if sometimes it doesn't seem that way!
You right Sparky, I made a mistake to put all the HCPC paramedics in the same box, just want to explain that 20 years of experience to do the same thing everytime is definitely not an advantage to become remote site medic...
Starlight
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Who does that then?
dazzler2439
Full Registered User
More total misunderstanding of the role of HCPC paramedics and our current scope of practice!
Merit Training
Longterm Registered User
The bottom line is to get training that will get you jobs.
Clearly there is some paramedic training programmes what will prepare the graduate better than others. A three year BSc in Paramedic Science that culminates with HCPC registration is a profound training programme.