Why does everyone claim to be ex special forces?
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Wrong. The Legion is not "just army". Training is at a much higher level than the regular French army. If you are going to compare the Legion to a particular unit, the closest comparison would be USMC
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Kelemansa. It always surprises me that you are actually still a member on this site after the amount of bullshit you have posted and people you have pissed off, although I can understand why the mods might want to keep you around. A bit like a mascot or a pet monkey, totally useless, but amusing from time to time. You really should take your medication.
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It's so satisfying scratching an itch.
One day he'll show up at one of the CPW meets, and we'll book him as the cabaret. Should anybody come across him in the 'real world', in the meantime, please feel free to pass on our regards in a suitable manner.
....don't leave any evidence !
Maybe because wars are usually won by armies, not single units. Even if you think of one of the shortest wars in history, the Anglo-Zanzibar War (1896) which lasted just 38 minutes, it required 5 warships and a contingent of Royal Marines and Zanzibaris on the winners side.
If you made such a statement, for instance, thinking the Indochina War was lost only by the FFL because the media often gives all the credit to the FFL for doing all the fighting then you would get it wrong. There were other units involved, North African regiments defending essential outposts such as those forming the De Lattre Line, the Colonial Paratroopers doing search and destroy missions, the GCMA wagging guerrilla warfare on the Viet Minh,... and no, you couldn't find only legionnaires in Dien Bien Phu (in fact they accounted 2,500 men out of 10,000 troops), there were also Moroccan Infantry, Algerian Artillery Battalions, Vietnamese Paratroopers, French Colonial Paratroopers,... to say nothing of the U.S. pilots and their almost 700 flight missions during the battle.
Regarding the "train hard, fight easy" motto, although marshal Suvorov, Generalissimo actually, is one of the very few generals in history who never lost a battle, the Russian saying he coined doesn't imply you will always win, but you sure will fight easier (as second nature) and more efectively. Sure that hard training helps a great deal to win and therefore it's vital (*) but it's not the same, victory depends on many factors, not just training.
All that said, you are obviously entitled to have an opinion but I think to despise the FFL is a mistake based on something else rather than history, facts or personal experience. There is no need to relate here all the battles which helped to built the epic and myth of the FFL, the information is at the reach of anybody's fingertips, but it sure proves their hard training has helped them a big deal to fight "easier" no matter the odds.
(*) The first half of Suvorov's Science of Victory is devoted to "Drill Instructions". In an age when soldiers’ training was usually confined to parades in the capital and drills in the barracks, his methods were both original and daring. Suvorov's objective always was to make training conditions approach as close as possible the conditions of real combat.To do that, he started ordering forced marches in all kinds of lousy weather and terrain, and devised his renowned skvoznaia ataka (“through attack†or “transparent attackâ€), a simulation of real battle often incorporating cavalry and artillery with a wide use of blank cannon fire, blank volleys and bayonet charges (to keep the momentum of the exercise, the soldiers would at the last moment step to the right, raise their weapons above their heads and squeeze through the openings in the opposing line, hence the name of the exercise). As one contemporary wrote, “this attack was indeed a mess, reminiscent of real business of battle. It was conducted by both attacking sides head on...amidst infantry and cavalry fire, with screams of Hurrah! In the meantime, the officers on each side were cheering their men on, yelling “Cut them down lads! With the bayonets!†Needless to say this heavy dose of realism meant injuries and fatalities might and did happen but Suvorov was unconcerned, remarking that, at the expense of a few lives, he was able to teach and consequently save thousands.
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in my working life there is 1 thing that has stood out from the crowd........................true SF never boast of or about anything..
they dont have to, once they are SF people/companies go looking for them.........they dont need to find work........work always finds them................... plus.......................oh bollucks alzheimers has turned up.
they dont have to, once they are SF people/companies go looking for them.........they dont need to find work........work always finds them................... plus.......................oh bollucks alzheimers has turned up.
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All FFL units are part of french army regular brigades, training, skills an equipment are the same. They train always and only with french similar units...... but faster and better, always be the best, failure is or was severely punished(some in here know what i'm talking about). FFL is unique, the strength is the men coming from different places in the world, their previous military and life experience, education.....so many solutions. And still am proud i'd do it all over again ...........
All FFL units are part of french army regular brigades, training, skills an equipment are the same. They train always and only with french similar units...... but faster and better, always be the best, failure is or was severely punished(some in here know what i'm talking about). FFL is unique, the strength is the men coming from different places in the world, their previous military and life experience, education.....so many solutions. And still am proud i'd do it all over again ...........
Kelemansa, I don't know what's wrong with you!
I mean, how can you make some commentaries like this about a unit as the FFL???
You served within the FFL? NO!!!
You work together with the FFL in the past? NO!!!
You know the "system" within and of the FFL? Again NO!!!
So, use your brain before you open your mouth, ok? You know, one of the first rules of a Legionnaire is: be humble and stop talking bullshit about thing's what you don't know!!!
So, if you like to know how the FFL really work's, try to engage and find out it your self, you would be surprised...
"Don't feed the troll"......
Pfffhhh, Kelemansa, as I said before, use your brain before you open your mouth about something what you don't know.
Firstly, I don't know what my "name MAY" has to do within the dicussion.
Secondlay, you write it wrong, it's not "chlabor" but "schlappohr" (you are maybe one???), as I said before, don't talk about things what you dont know!!!
Third point, and only for you, the Legion does a lot of great military operations with a win, from Sebastopol to Kolwezi over Ivory Coast to Djiboti, etc, but, as I said before, you can't know it because you know absolutely nothing about the FFL.
And don't forget, it's "Schlappohr"...
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bigscottyboy
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Despite what they say RAF Regiment are not SF!!! (Neither are Marines or Paras!!)
Here I sit following the lastest stupidity of some guy with a cartoon name and who feels the need to piss everyone off with insults and misformation about the FFL.
As I've mentioned previously, this forum is more entertaining than some of the internet dating sites out there. Not too mention this forum is free!
BTW, instead of providing this guy with a heavy dosage of meds or putting him on a leash, his actions definately call for some severe Jap slapping!
In closing, I've observed some of these muppets disappear into the yonder, perhaps away on some "hush-hush secret squirrel mission" and eventually resurface back on this forum. Perhaps the reality is they've been on an extended stay in the rubber room located at fantasy island?? barc-out
We sleep safe in our beds because tough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do us harm
As I've mentioned previously, this forum is more entertaining than some of the internet dating sites out there. Not too mention this forum is free!
BTW, instead of providing this guy with a heavy dosage of meds or putting him on a leash, his actions definately call for some severe Jap slapping!
In closing, I've observed some of these muppets disappear into the yonder, perhaps away on some "hush-hush secret squirrel mission" and eventually resurface back on this forum. Perhaps the reality is they've been on an extended stay in the rubber room located at fantasy island?? barc-out
We sleep safe in our beds because tough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do us harm